UFC 333: Volkanovski vs. Evloev

Xamot said:
I love you @bconcrete, don't take anything I might be saying out of context, it's me speaking as I'm typing. You're knowledgable in any and everything we've discussed.

I just think sometimes.. people focus on winning the argument, more than the actual argument.

Love you man, let's enjoy the fights, and we can talk about this another time. I just realized I missed bitch ass reyes doing something... Typing this.. (I wasn't gonna watch anyway, hate the guy).
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Oh bro, I'm just poking you for fun and riling you up, all good.

I'm just being overly pedantic for the helluva of it, I genuinely don't care one way or the other I'm just trying to spin you up man.
 
bconcrete said:
I'm also calling bullshit here. I know E very well, and if you're claiming that shit, you better bring receipts.
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I'm saying... Like... Homie is usually extremely level headed, I can't see it. And idk... Like I feel like if he did say something about his Daughter, it might've been blown out of proportion, which is why I want to see the quote.

If it's something like "Your daughter would be ashamed of you."
or "Your daughter has you for a father?"
or "I'd expect with your teaching, your daughter..."

Those things can get blown out of proportion, especially when said by someone who doesn't like you.

But, I can't think of anything else he could've said.. But, I haven't been here much, so I don't know. I'm leaning towards Eranys on.. Likely didn't happen or blown out of proportion, but I want to see the receipts.

Not defending anyone, just want to see what it was that was said.
 
Xamot said:
I'm saying... Like... Homie is usually extremely level headed, I can't see it. And idk... Like I feel like if he did say something about his Daughter, it might've been blown out of proportion, which is why I want to see the quote.

If it's something like "Your daughter would be ashamed of you."
or "Your daughter has you for a father?"
or "I'd expect with your teaching, your daughter..."

Those things can get blown out of proportion, especially when said by someone who doesn't like you.

But, I can't think of anything else he could've said.. But, I haven't been here much, so I don't know. I'm leaning towards Eranys on.. Likely didn't happen or blown out of proportion, but I want to see the receipts.

Not defending anyone, just want to see what it was that was said.
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I need to see it to believe it. E will go after a person with an intensity but he doesn't spray his fire indiscriminately. Hes targeted and considers family extremely off limits.
 
bconcrete said:
Right, as my original point said, which you conveniently forget, was that your original criteria was flawed and incomplete. If it was actually correct and comprehensive you wouldn't need to bring additional points in, it would stand on its own. It didn't, hence my original contention of a flawed argument holds.

You're the only stressing, I'm giggling at how spun up you are. Idc one way or the other, you just get like this whenever it's pointed out your supposed rock solid argument isn't as sturdy as you think it is. If it was, you wouldn't need more than your original criteria to prove your claim.

Heres another demonstrative example since I'm having fun: if you were to say 'Jordan is the GOAT and here's why' and list his accolades, that's one thing. But, if you say 'GOAT status is determined by accolades and...blah blah blah' but leave off several of the evaluative criteria you're using to determine it, that is flawed premise. You did the latter, hence, flawed premise.

Well, then you're dealing with yet another flawed premise. Because it's not GOTE (greatest of their era) it's GOAT (greatest of ALL TIME), no? I mean, that's what YOU constantly say. Are there different definitions of "all time" im not aware of? Because I believe in the com.on vernacular it means... "all time" not "their era."

Well if you give a list of GOAT criteria, and then don't follow it and then choose to use other criteria not named, yeah, I'll mention it as yet another flawed argument. You made a contention, it was shown to be incorrect, so you then introduce additional criteria not originally present to justify.

Which y'all you talking about again? Go find anywhere I even mentioned Jones in anything or disputed his GOAT status. Anywhere. Here or mania. I'll wait, balls in your court. Go prove that claim. Don't be putting words in my mouth again cuz your got your panties bunched.
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ima respond to this, after the fights, or tomorrow, because I'm tired... lol

BUT I do want to respond to this first.

Which y'all you talking about again? Go find anywhere I even mentioned Jones in anything or disputed his GOAT status. Anywhere. Here or mania. I'll wait, balls in your court. Go prove that claim. Don't be putting words in my mouth again cuz your got your panties bunched.
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THIS was on me, it was a general statement, when i said "I see how y'all are with Goat Jones." I was speaking in general when speaking about "Not caring about public opinion."

I wrote

I tend to avoid public opinion, because we see how y'all are with Goat Jones, so why would I need public opinion on anything?
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General statement, not towards you specifically, just how the public will do ANYTHING to not give Goat Jones his flowers, even attempting to crown people who avoid fighters, have WAY less title wins/accolades, as a goat above him. NOT YOU in particular, I should've stated that. My apologies. I thought it was known by how I typed it, BUT I see the disconnect.
 
bconcrete said:
I need to see it to believe it. E will go after a person with an intensity but he doesn't spray his fire indiscriminately. Hes targeted and considers family extremely off limits.
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I feel the same... It's why I'm adamant about the receipts.
 
Xamot said:
Yeah, I gotta see a quote on this.. I'm actually upset if it's true. But, I don't think it is, and possibly he might've saw something out of context.. But this is bad.
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It's a completely fabricated lie he pulled straight from his anus because he thought it would draw public sympathy to him. Fuck that shit, I've never talked about anyone's kids and would never bring up anyone's kids like that. I didn't think my respect for Riz could, go any lower, but it certainly did after that attempted cheap shot.

Riz is a liar, and this is public proof. I have never said a single even slightly disparaging thing about his daughter. I have said his wife steps out on him (Riz has said as much himself), but that ain't shitting on his wife. I'm sure she's a lovely person.
 
Look at Pico against unranked fighters. Looking like his bellator days... Soon as someone has a number next to their name... He's a deer in headlights.
 
Eranys said:
It's a completely fabricated lie he pulled straight from his anus because he thought it would draw public sympathy to him. Fuck that shit, I've never talked about anyone's kids and would never bring up anyone's kids like that. I didn't think my respect for Riz could, go any lower, but it certainly did after that attempted cheap shot.

Riz is a liar, and this is public proof. I have never said a single even slightly disparaging thing about his daughter. I have said his wife steps out on him (Riz has said as much himself), but that ain't shitting on his wife. I'm sure she's a lovely person.
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Fair enough, until it's proven, this.... is technically fact.

The burden of proof, lies with the accuser, if no proof is shown/stated.. It didn't happen.
 
Riz Farmer said:
Fair enough. I would like to get along. You seem very angry though. Seen it a bunch of times from you so not surprised.
Total refusal to make peace.
Good luck sir.
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Here's the thing you just can't accept, Riz. I genuinely dislike you. You don't just annoy me; I do not like you. And that's why I ignore you. But, if you go out of your way to call me out like you did this morning, you are inviting this shit on yourself. Because I will react.

If you publicly retract your accusation about me saying shit about your daughter, I will back off and go back to Defcon 5. But you need to admit that was a fabrication.
 
Pereira is ranked #3, with 0 wins at HW?

Pereira is ranked #3 with 0 wins at HW?

Pereira is ranked #3 with 0 wins at HW?
 
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