UFC Buyrates - Excited or Concerned?

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Originally posted by: TooFineFeiner
Date: March 12, 2010 at 12:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-buyrates-excited-or-concerned.23340/

Recently there has been some talk of how "poorly" the UFC has been doing in terms of buyrates over the past few months. Ever since UFC 100's amazing buyrate of 1.6 to 1.7 PPV buys, the numbers have dipped significantly. Some say this is due to the emergence of Strikeforce, the economy, the lack of title fights, the lack of compelling or meaningful main events, or the injury curse.
After a little research online, i was able to find the estimated buyrates from UFC 33 (their return to PPV after the "dark ages") through UFC 110. For simplicity's sake I used a buyrate of $45.00 and calculated the estimate revenue for each event as EST_REV = EST_BUYS * $45.00.
The numbers for 2010 do not look promising. According to the estimates I found, the average buyrate for a post TUF UFC PPV is 495,833. The average from UFC 33 to UFC 100 is 384,712. Through three events in 2010, they are only averaging 271,667.
If the UFC continues to only sell 275,000 PPV's per event at $45 per buy, this works out to $12,375,000 in revenue per event, or just under $150 million for 12 PPV's in 2010.
While at a glance, it may seem like a cause for concern, I think the UFC is still doing quite well for themselves and will continue to thrive as the undisputed champion of MMA. I can only see the buy numbers increasing once their star fighters have fully recovered and more title fights headline PPV's.
That's the end of my very long winded two cents...thoughts?
Some yearly estimates:
• So far in 2010, they've only had an estimated 815,000 PPV buys for $36,675,000 in estimated revenue.
• In 2009, the UFC had an estimated 7,965,000 total PPV buys for $358,425,000 in estimated revenue.
• In 2008, they had an estimated 6,720,000 PPV buys for $302,400,000 in estimated revenue.
• In 2007, they had an estimated 4,885,000 PPV buys for $219,825,000 in estimated revenue.
• In 2006, they had an estimated 5,545,000 PPV buys for $249,525,000 in estimated revenue.
• In 2005, they had an estimated 950,000 PPV buys for $42,750,000 in estimated revenue.
 
Originally posted by: Fedor_is_god
Date: March 12, 2010 at 12:24 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-buyrates-excited-or-concerned.23340/

Dude, the buy rates for the next few fights alone will be through the roof. Plus Brock is expected back this summer. They will easily set records this year
 
Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: March 12, 2010 at 12:28 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-buyrates-excited-or-concerned.23340/

36 Mil, how could any pomotion survive on that... Guess I better get on eBay and buy as many UFC DVD's as I can. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Paint_Chips
Date: March 12, 2010 at 12:33 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-buyrates-excited-or-concerned.23340/

What about the revenue generated on their Spike and VS shows? It's all part of the bottom line. Regardless, their PPV numbers are going to rise here shortly. The UFC is doing just fine... obviously.
 
Originally posted by: GoodCat
Date: March 12, 2010 at 01:21 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-buyrates-excited-or-concerned.23340/

I wouldn't be too concerned. When you put on 3 straight cards with no titles on the line, you are gonna get a lot of causal fans that don't buy. 111, especially with GSP fighting, will probably be right back up there around the 750,000-1M buyrate.
 
Originally posted by: Fjodorz
Date: March 12, 2010 at 03:35 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-buyrates-excited-or-concerned.23340/

GoodCat said:
I wouldn't be too concerned. When you put on 3 straight cards with no titles on the line, you are gonna get a lot of causal fans that don't buy. 111, especially with GSP fighting, will probably be right back up there around the 750,000-1M buyrate.
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And the next card with BJ AS and Hughes, its not going to drop either..
 
Originally posted by: Cavediver
Date: March 12, 2010 at 07:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-buyrates-excited-or-concerned.23340/

IMHO I think that its just a dip is all. Slow creeping economy and coupled with the UFC has ppvs almost every month sometimes two..For some this isn't prob but with alot of blue collar peeps momma might get a lil upset with so much going out on tight budgets. I do believe it will all balance out in the long run,the UFC is here to stay.
 
Originally posted by: ez215
Date: March 12, 2010 at 11:34 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-buyrates-excited-or-concerned.23340/

Cavediver said:
IMHO I think that its just a dip is all. Slow creeping economy and coupled with the UFC has ppvs almost every month sometimes two..For some this isn't prob but with alot of blue collar peeps momma might get a lil upset with so much going out on tight budgets. I do believe it will all balance out in the long run,the UFC is here to stay.
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I'm as blue collar as they come, don't live at home, and buy every ppv and don't make any of my friends throw up money. I guess I break the mold there though huh.
I do agree that the no title fights an lack of GSP and Brock has something to do with it. Also like everyone else said dude UFC putting out 2 events a month is helping their ppv buys either. The more events they start to put on the less buys they'll have. And now with WEC moving that directions too the casual fan is going to be choosing their ppv buys wisely. Hopefully the UFC gets a network deal soon because they'll make a ton on advertisement money. I wouldn't worry about them
 
Originally posted by: AgoniesCreep
Date: March 12, 2010 at 01:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-buyrates-excited-or-concerned.23340/

ez215 said:
Cavediver said:
IMHO I think that its just a dip is all. Slow creeping economy and coupled with the UFC has ppvs almost every month sometimes two..For some this isn't prob but with alot of blue collar peeps momma might get a lil upset with so much going out on tight budgets. I do believe it will all balance out in the long run,the UFC is here to stay.
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I'm as blue collar as they come, don't live at home, and buy every ppv and don't make any of my friends throw up money. I guess I break the mold there though huh.
I do agree that the no title fights an lack of GSP and Brock has something to do with it. Also like everyone else said dude UFC putting out 2 events a month is helping their ppv buys either. The more events they start to put on the less buys they'll have. And now with WEC moving that directions too the casual fan is going to be choosing their ppv buys wisely. Hopefully the UFC gets a network deal soon because they'll make a ton on advertisement money. I wouldn't worry about them
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I never miss a UFC PPV but will not be ordering the WEC on PPV, as I have to draw the line somewhere. The WEC puts on some great shows & in a healthy economy, would easily be worth it. I hate to say it but, I'm hoping the WEC buy rate is dismal so I won't have to miss their biggest shows. If they're gonna start doing their own PPVs, then the UFC should just absorb the WEC & put their fighters on the UFC cards.
As far as being excited or concerned goes, I'm concerned that there is now more MMA then I can afford to watch.
 
Originally posted by: GroveStud
Date: March 12, 2010 at 04:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-buyrates-excited-or-concerned.23340/

I also think the new deal with showing PPV's in theaters will help. That's where I plan on watching them in the future. $20 compared to $45. Only negative is no beer (though I will definitely sneak in a flask).
 
Originally posted by: bisping_fan
Date: March 12, 2010 at 08:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-buyrates-excited-or-concerned.23340/

It's not something I think about much. If I worked for the UFC and was on their payroll I would care. But since, I'm not, I don't care really. Even if UFC is or started to do bad finically, MMA isn't ever going to just die out. There will always be good fights for fans to see somewhere someway.
 
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