UFC on FOX: Lawler vs Dos Anjos
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Magson13 said:
This is a Christmas card as much as Die Hard is a Christmas movie.
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redd1 said:
Wow, as big as elliot is he turned that fight down
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Yeah and he’s whining that he deserves the show and win money and says he has a kid to feed. He should’ve taken it, he’s lost out on a potential fight bonus, lost out on a reebok bonus, 20% of Mengas purse and a guaranteed win bonus. Dumb! I like Elliot and love his fights, but he should’ve taken this fight. I guess he will find another fight soon, but I don’t think he deserves a win bonus like he’s been whinging on about on Twitter. Menga took this fight on very short notice and we have one less fight on this card, great!
It was shitty that the doctor ordered Megna (sp?) to stop cutting weight and no one informed Elliott. If they wanted to offer him a proper catchweight bout (or as close to proper as possible) then they should have notified him immediately so he could stop cutting weight as well. Still, he's not just losing out on the 2 grand he mentions in the article; he's losing out on his likely win money (which he should be confident in as a ranked fighter), Reebok bonus money, and potential FotN or PotN bonus money.
BlairBones said:
It was shitty that the doctor ordered Megna (sp?) to stop cutting weight and no one informed Elliott. If they wanted to offer him a proper catchweight bout (or as close to proper as possible) then they should have notified him immediately so he could stop cutting weight as well. Still, he's not just losing out on the 2 grand he mentions in the article; he's losing out on his likely win money (which he should be confident in as a ranked fighter), Reebok bonus money, and potential FotN or PotN bonus money.
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Reading the MMA Fighting article, it said that Menga's health issues occurred on Friday, that he was taken to the hospital. It is quite likely that folks at the venue did not get final word until the weigh-ins were under way, Tim was the first fighter to step on the scale.
Menga was set to make his Octagon debut on less than two weeks’ notice as a replacement for an injured
Justin Scoggins
; however, he experienced kidney problems during the weight cut and
was taken to the hospital Friday,
sources told MMA Fighting’s Ariel Helwani.
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MMAFTM13 said:
Yeah and he’s whining that he deserves the show and win money and says he has a kid to feed. He should’ve taken it, he’s lost out on a potential fight bonus, lost out on a reebok bonus, 20% of Mengas purse and a guaranteed win bonus. Dumb! I like Elliot and love his fights, but he should’ve taken this fight. I guess he will find another fight soon, but I don’t think he deserves a win bonus like he’s been whinging on about on Twitter. Menga took this fight on very short notice and we have one less fight on this card, great!
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I don't have a problem with him turning down the fight when his opponent missed by that much, but I totally disagree with the notion that he should get his win money. If UFC policy was for fighters to get both fight and win money if an opponent either could not fight or missed weight, no rational fighter would accept fights either at catchweight or with a last minute opponent. Think about it, you can get more money, with no risk whatsoever, or roll the dice, risking a loss or injury, and maybe get less money.
The only time I think a fighter should get fight+win is if the UFC can't find a replacement/can't schedule a new bout within a reasonable period of time.
MMAFTM13 said:
Yeah and he’s whining that he deserves the show and win money and says he has a kid to feed. He should’ve taken it, he’s lost out on a potential fight bonus, lost out on a reebok bonus, 20% of Mengas purse and a guaranteed win bonus. Dumb! I like Elliot and love his fights, but he should’ve taken this fight. I guess he will find another fight soon, but I don’t think he deserves a win bonus like he’s been whinging on about on Twitter. Menga took this fight on very short notice and we have one less fight on this card, great!
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Elliot was saying he would get 2k from Mengas purse. Not really worth it.
It's not Elliots fault that Menga couldn't even go on the scales. Why give Menga an unfair advantage?
I think any fighter should get show and win bonus if the opponent cannot show up to the fight due to not weight making agreed upon weight. Professionalism.
Also, Menga has missed weight before. He's a decent prospect and I was looking towards his debut, but he needs to get his s--- together.
I 100% agree with TE's decision not to take the 131 fight. He did his job, he made the acceptable flyweight weight. UFC shouldn't "shame" Tim for not wanting to take a catchweight fight. UFC can absolutely afford to pay TE both his show and win purse, or at least a portion. Show TE that UFC as an organization appreciates TE being a pro and doing his job. Do your fighters a solid for once UFC.
ChaosGod said:
WHAT? Its a christmas movie its all on Chrismas Eve, lights, christmas songs, it is a full on chrismas movie. Speaking of which to any of my fellow die hard fans who might be into Porn I caught glimpse of a trailer for Brazzers Die Hard porn parody so happy fapping
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Brazzers, sooo good
coreymb said:
Elliot was saying he would get 2k from Mengas purse. Not really worth it.
It's not Elliots fault that Menga couldn't even go on the scales. Why give Menga an unfair advantage?
I think any fighter should get show and win bonus if the opponent cannot show up to the fight due to not weight making agreed upon weight. Professionalism.
Also, Menga has missed weight before. He's a decent prospect and I was looking towards his debut, but he needs to get his s--- together.
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Menga had 12 days notice & was bulking up to tryout for TUF at a higher weightclass. I'm not sure this is an example of him needing to get his s--- together, he took the contract like any fighter would but couldn't manage the massive weight cut. I'm curious to know if the UFC knew just how heavy he was.
Spud said:
he took the contract like any fighter would
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This is not ditected at you but this particular part of your response brought up something I found out about, related to this card. A local fighter here (4-0) got offered a short notice fight on this card and potentially a standard UF contract for a new fighter. He turned it down citing he wasn't ready. I can respect that, I guess....but what a massive gamble. We are not exactly churning out UFC fighters in these parts so one wonders if he'll get the call again. There is the chance that his next few performaces aren't the best (losses or unimptessive wins. Also the chance the UFC doesn't like bring told no.