UFC & THQ vs. EA EA wins

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:28 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

I think dana white and the UFC have finally picked a fight they will not win. THQ is a good game maker and made a quality game. HOWEVER EA is the big boy of the video game world. They make great quality games and even though they may not have all the big name fighters the UFC does i will guarentee they market and promote their game very well. This is not their first rodeo. Unfortunately for the UFC this is not affliction or elitexc these guys do games and as much as dana will rant and rave about EA being bad the casual fan will say oh snap EA makes an mma game i bet thats legit and will buy it. Plus the gameitself will most likely be high quality in fact I have never once bought an EA game that was low quality. Plus the fighters that signed with EA should get an INSTANT popularity boost.
Yalls thoughts?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

EA sports can do great when given a full roster of NBA, MLB, NFL and NCAA player/images to work with. When venturing into a relative new avenue (for them), and left with a limited roster its hard to say how they'll do. I'm sure the gameplay and look of their game will be what most people expect from EA. But, for those wanting to gameplay their favorite fighter, looks like only the Fedor fans will get their monies worth.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ShadyCambo
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

Why is Madden so popular? It's the only game in town if you want NFL players and teams. EA made sure of that. They will not enjoy the same monopoly with MMA that they have with NFL. Also sports game buyers and sports fans sometimes are not one in the same, the sports game market is sold to casual and less than casual fans. EA is not going to enjoy any of the name reconigtion that the UFC Undisputed has.
The other thing is they have never made a game that requires quick and seamless transitions from one move to the other, THQ has with their Smackdown series. Pro wrestling and MMA have about has much in common as Barack Obama and David Dukes, I know, but Pro wrestling video games and MMA video games have a ton in common and that's what THQ banked on.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:38 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

Thats not necessarily true i have bought boxing games from ea before and started playing and was well that guy looks cool and it has a little bio and suddenly i got a new favorite guy to play with in game and then its more fun to cheer for them in real life. ALSO sometimes there is just that one computer guy or team or w.e you keep getting beat by suddenly you have an enemy and want to see if he is as good in real life. PLUS randy is in it as well right. plus shields and other big names i think there will be plenty of fighers if not more cause they can pick up ANYONE thats not ufc. so while the ufc has their wec and ufc roster ea can pick up strikeforce dream and other jap orgs as well as some regional places like shark fights and xfc and get big names like lashley and monson and bam thats an equal game.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: rocklobster
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:39 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

They won't out sell the UFC game. I bet there are a ton of people that bought Undisputed that won't even know who 99% of the fighters are on EA mma. Even if the game play is a little better most people would probably rather play the game they recognize the characters on and have seen them fight on TV. EA should of had their heads out of their asses when the UFC approached them with the idea.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

i'm gonna buy it cuz i love nick diaz, and hopefully cung le will sign too.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

ok but here is what you don't get.
ITS ALL ABOUT NAME BRAND
. ok the UFC is the name brand when it comes to mma. And most of my buds don't know anything but UFC however if they go to wal mart and are like im going to buy an mma game and they see EA and THQ it doesn't matter if you got bob the builder on the front they are choosing EA cause EA makes extremly high quality games while thq games end up usually getting repetative. They may not out sell thq in the short run but EA will in the long run mark my words.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: HBK42581
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

I think Dana White and Zuffa are justified in the way they feel about EA Sports. They went to EA a few years ago to pitch a video game idea and EA laughed in their faces. Now, because of the stellar business that the UFC is doing, EA Sports wants to try to get a piece of the pie. Well f--- them. They had their shot.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: rocklobster
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

Gibbs101 said:
ok but here is what you don't get.
ITS ALL ABOUT NAME BRAND
. ok the UFC is the name brand when it comes to mma. And most of my buds don't know anything but UFC however if they go to wal mart and are like im going to buy an mma game and they see EA and THQ it doesn't matter if you got bob the builder on the front they are choosing EA cause EA makes extremly high quality games while thq games end up usually getting repetative. They may not out sell thq in the short run but EA will in the long run mark my words.
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and that name brand is...
UFC

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Big_Boy
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

ShadyCambo said:
The other thing is they have never made a game that requires quick and seamless transitions from one move to the other, THQ has with their Smackdown series.
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Neither had THQ....The UFC game transition system was built from scratch and Thq had brought in help to get it right. The smackdown system is completely different.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: clockwerk
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

I firmly believe the EA game will outdo THQ easily.
EA has a lot of experience making games like this. Knowing that they are going against an established franchise, they will certainly invest heavily to make sure this game is solid top to bottom. Firstly, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts the CAF and Career modes will slaughter THQ's clunky efforts.
Furthermore, in recent years, EA has made it a habit to innovate control schemes. This is the single biggest area of difficulty for any MMA game. THQ did a more than reasonable job, but I can't help but feel EA will take what they as a guideline, and make it significantly better.
In all honesty, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if EA eventually buys out the UFC contract from THQ and takes over.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

and that name brand is...UFC
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try again boss man they are the name brand of MMA but when it comes to video games EA takes the cake. so sorry i don't see it if someone goes oh the made the ufc game most people will go oh thats cool but EA just advertises the hell out of all their games and people ask me for months before its out. something like hey gibbs did you see the new EA game coming out. while as most people i know are just now getting interested into the ufc. soooo im saying EA is definetly better known than UFC.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: hector234
Date: July 30, 2009 at 02:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

ShadyCambo said:
Why is Madden so popular?
It's the only game in town if you want NFL players and teams. EA made sure of that
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They will not enjoy the same monopoly with MMA that they have with NFL. Also sports game buyers and sports fans sometimes are not one in the same, the sports game market is sold to casual and less than casual fans. EA is not going to enjoy any of the name reconigtion that the UFC Undisputed has.
The other thing is they have never made a game that requires quick and seamless transitions from one move to the other, THQ has with their Smackdown series. Pro wrestling and MMA have about has much in common as Barack Obama and David Dukes, I know, but Pro wrestling video games and MMA video games have a ton in common and that's what THQ banked on.
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So true, I am a huge Madden fan, but I still say NFL 2K5 was miles a head of Madden. EA will struggle against THQ and the UFC.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: pretendingtowork
Date: July 30, 2009 at 03:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

Gibbs101 said:
ok but here is what you don't get.
ITS ALL ABOUT NAME BRAND
. ok the UFC is the name brand when it comes to mma. And most of my buds don't know anything but UFC however if they go to wal mart and are like im going to buy an mma game and they see EA and THQ it doesn't matter if you got bob the builder on the front they are choosing EA cause EA makes extremly high quality games while thq games end up usually getting repetative. They may not out sell thq in the short run but EA will in the long run mark my words.
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Well then you and your friends aren't the smartest bunch. My friends buy games based on reviews. What if the playability is horrible? What if the talent pool is really shallow? What if the online mode sucks? Are you still going to buy it because it is EA?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ronkiz21
Date: July 30, 2009 at 03:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

Gibbs101 said:
and that name brand is...UFC
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try again boss man they are the name brand of MMA
but when it comes to video games EA takes the cake. so sorry i don't see it if someone goes oh the made the ufc game most people will go oh thats cool but EA just advertises the hell out of all their games and people ask me for months before its out. something like hey gibbs did you see the new EA game coming out. while as most people i know are just now getting interested into the ufc. soooo im saying EA is definetly better known than UFC.
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And it's an MMA game. Listen here if the NFL had a dispute with EA and they couldn't have NFL players in their game do you think people would buy if it was just CFL or Arena players?
The casual fan sees a game with Forrest on the cover and another one with Fedor on the cover. They are going with Forrest, that's who they know and a guy they all love.
The non-hardcores, which makes up the majority, want to fight with Brock, Chuck, Anderson, Franklin, Henderson, BJ, GSP, and Mir. Not Emelianenko, Mousasi, and Babalu and that will be the difference.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 30, 2009 at 03:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

i couldn't stand 2k5... it was all blotchy and laggy
[And it's an MMA game. Listen here if the NFL had a dispute with EA and they couldn't have NFL players in their game do you think people would buy if it was just CFL or Arena players?
The casual fan sees a game with Forrest on the cover and another one with Fedor on the cover. They are going with Forrest, that's who they know and a guy they all love.
People want to fight with Brock, Chuck, Anderson, Franklin, Henderson, BJ, GSP, and Mir. Not Emelianenko, Mousasi, and Babalu and that will be the difference.
Gibbs101 said:
and that name brand is...UFC
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try again boss man they are the name brand of MMA
but when it comes to video games EA takes the cake. so sorry i don't see it if someone goes oh the made the ufc game most people will go oh thats cool but EA just advertises the hell out of all their games and people ask me for months before its out. something like hey gibbs did you see the new EA game coming out. while as most people i know are just now getting interested into the ufc. soooo im saying EA is definetly better known than UFC.
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And it's an MMA game. Listen here if the NFL had a dispute with EA and they couldn't have NFL players in their game do you think people would buy if it was just CFL or Arena players?
The casual fan sees a game with Forrest on the cover and another one with Fedor on the cover. They are going with Forrest, that's who they know and a guy they all love.
People want to fight with Brock, Chuck, Anderson, Franklin, Henderson, BJ, GSP, and Mir. Not Emelianenko, Mousasi, and Babalu and that will be the difference.
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plus thats not true all they have to do is put randy on the cover and bam there is your famous guy everyone knows.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 30, 2009 at 03:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

plus ea can get around that they can do a likeness of ufc fighters and change the name and a few slight differences with the looks and they can still use it. thats how they do it with college football

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ronkiz21
Date: July 30, 2009 at 03:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

^^^Except Randy is under contract with Zuffa still. He won't be in the game. I don't get your logic here, but even Randy alone doesn't have the draw power of Chuck and Brock.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 30, 2009 at 03:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

RANDY ALREADY SIGNED A CONTRACT TO BE IN THE EA GAME
its all over the junkie sight all the time. That was part of the reason it was hard for him to come back. Cause of the contract with EA he couldn't get out of. Plus Randy is a good draw and he won't be alone fedor and shields. Not to mention Lawler who is a pretty well known guy. There are plenty of guys people know outside the UFC. Nick diaz.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ShadyCambo
Date: July 30, 2009 at 03:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-thq-vs-ea-ea-wins.15935/

Big_Boy said:
ShadyCambo said:
The other thing is they have never made a game that requires quick and seamless transitions from one move to the other, THQ has with their Smackdown series.
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Neither had THQ....The UFC game transition system was built from scratch and Thq had brought in help to get it right. The smackdown system is completely different.
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I wasn't implying that the game engines were the same, I was stating that they had some experience with how to transition from stand-up, to grappling, to clinch, etc. It may have been built from scratch but they sure did use the experience they gained from the Smackdown franchise to create it .