Originally posted by: ElasticWallabee Date: May 01, 2010 at 01:31 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/undisputed-10-demo-discussion-thread.25117/
olswago said:
So how do u reverse throws... U say just hold L1 and towards the dude? only part of this game im havin troubles with...
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still have no clue how to reverse throws.
but this game seems very knockout friendly. Especially if you get like 3 or 4 good shots in a row. They go right to being dazed and then you can KO them pretty quick. I'm not killing the guys on expert yet. They still seem pretty good.
I did just have a weird experience with the submission. I just got one with rashad over rampage..? and it didn't even have a wind up. Just a flash Sub. It was weird. Rashad's sub O is like 57 and Rampages sub D is like 83. Wtf?...
Originally posted by: ElasticWallabee Date: May 01, 2010 at 01:57 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/undisputed-10-demo-discussion-thread.25117/
I just watched this video. posted from another thread.
And one thing I learned is during the submissions. If you pull a submission switch or submission transition like from a armbar to a triangle. You have to spin in the opposite direction. Both the offender and defender have to switch their spin mid sub. interesting stuff.
Also when postured up in guard or half guard. You are a lot more susceptible for the guy on bottom to get up. Its built into the calculation on whether not they push you off to get to standup.
*also frank mir is really long winded.
so 2 questions so far
1. How do u reverse throws (computer on expert will do it to ya now and again)
and 2 for me personally
2. How do u revers in standing clinch is it flick up on right stick ? or ?
Nick420Diaz said:
My biggest complaint is I can't do the dropping punch into gaurd after I knock them down.
Other than that I think the new demo is great the Machida strait punch is the bomb-diggity
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hold LB/L1 + x/y to do the diving punch into guard
keep in mind that everyone may not have that move. i know Shogun does and Rampage doesn't. though I believe Machida and Rashad do but I'm not exactly sure.
For reversing slams, it's the same as reversing a ground transitions
My absolute biggest complaint after playing 20 matches or so is when I have someone mounted and am trying to posture up I keep switching to side control. Why is that even possible, much less happen for no reason? I guess I am major tranistioning instead of minoring, but it still doesn't make sense why that would happen. I am being very careful with my stick, and it keeps happening!
Originally posted by: ElasticWallabee Date: May 01, 2010 at 05:37 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/undisputed-10-demo-discussion-thread.25117/
Sebowski said:
My absolute biggest complaint after playing 20 matches or so is when I have someone mounted and am trying to posture up I keep switching to side control. Why is that even possible, much less happen for no reason? I guess I am major tranistioning instead of minoring, but it still doesn't make sense why that would happen. I am being very careful with my stick, and it keeps happening!
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So the biggest complain is not being able to reverse throws. You do that just like how you would reverse any transition. A well timed transition reversal flick of the R stick. I haven't tested it yet but i don't think its in a certian direction.
Sebowski, As for posturing up. All you have to worry about it not doing a major. Stick to a minor transition and you will at least attempt to posture up.
I've been running a routing of ground and pound. Posture. Land 3 blows and do the next transition. It keeps them from spamming the push off to stand up and keeps you landing a few blows.
And in the clinch. It is kind of frustrating and fast. Its easier with shogun because you can whip them with a L1+Minor transition+direction. Otherwise you just have to time your hits between blocking transitions just like GnP hits.
Originally posted by: ElasticWallabee Date: May 01, 2010 at 05:44 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/undisputed-10-demo-discussion-thread.25117/
Also.
in respect to submissions.
I've found that you do have to beat em up a decent bit before you start. Get there stamina down a little by blocking transitions or taking them down after they blew there wad.
But the only way I have gotten it to actually work is to posture up. land 2 hard hits before starting the sub. They didn't have to be flashed or greyed out. Just slightly down on stamina. and 2 hard hits.
i haven't been able to switch from one sub to the other yet. but i just have to study which ones are available in which positions/fighters even have that as an option.
and if you do pull that off don't forget about the reverse spinning.
wallabeejosh said:
Also.
in respect to submissions.
I've found that you do have to beat em up a decent bit before you start. Get there stamina down a little by blocking transitions or taking them down after they blew there wad.
But the only way I have gotten it to actually work is to posture up. land 2 hard hits before starting the sub. They didn't have to be flashed or greyed out. Just slightly down on stamina. and 2 hard hits.
i haven't been able to switch from one sub to the other yet. but i just have to study which ones are available in which positions/fighters even have that as an option.
and if you do pull that off don't forget about the reverse spinning.
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Shogun has a transition switch in the full guard. he can switch from his Achilles Lock to a Heel Hook
Nitestar said:
wallabeejosh said:
Also.
in respect to submissions.
I've found that you do have to beat em up a decent bit before you start. Get there stamina down a little by blocking transitions or taking them down after they blew there wad.
But the only way I have gotten it to actually work is to posture up. land 2 hard hits before starting the sub. They didn't have to be flashed or greyed out. Just slightly down on stamina. and 2 hard hits.
i haven't been able to switch from one sub to the other yet. but i just have to study which ones are available in which positions/fighters even have that as an option.
and if you do pull that off don't forget about the reverse spinning.
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Shogun has a transition switch in the full guard. he can switch from his Achilles Lock to a Heel Hook
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That's the one I pulled off as well. Shogun cannot switch from a kimura to an armbar though as shown in many of the vids
TheSheriff said:
Nitestar said:
wallabeejosh said:
Also.
in respect to submissions.
I've found that you do have to beat em up a decent bit before you start. Get there stamina down a little by blocking transitions or taking them down after they blew there wad.
But the only way I have gotten it to actually work is to posture up. land 2 hard hits before starting the sub. They didn't have to be flashed or greyed out. Just slightly down on stamina. and 2 hard hits.
i haven't been able to switch from one sub to the other yet. but i just have to study which ones are available in which positions/fighters even have that as an option.
and if you do pull that off don't forget about the reverse spinning.
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Shogun has a transition switch in the full guard. he can switch from his Achilles Lock to a Heel Hook
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That's the one I pulled off as well. Shogun cannot switch from a kimura to an armbar though as shown in many of the vids
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Shogun can switch from a triangle to an armbar though, which I did pull off, and later failed finishing.
Originally posted by: ElasticWallabee Date: May 01, 2010 at 12:54 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/undisputed-10-demo-discussion-thread.25117/
u sure to reverse throws u just flick the stick? and i use to be a reversal machine on the ground. (still am) but i keep trying to flick in standing clinch or single collar and i dont see myself gaining a position or reversing anything. I can still reverse all the way to full mount on the ground so flicking on throws i havent reversed one yet and still in clinch no damn reversals. meh imma keep practicin flickin i guess
holy s--- i just did one... i reversed a throw... wiiierd.....i guess its just hard as hell to do on expert. so lets say im over under right? when he goes for transition i flick and reverse his attempted tranny, does that mean i go into double underooks after i succefully reversed his tranny?. just tryin to get it down.
Originally posted by: leethemackem Date: May 01, 2010 at 04:54 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/undisputed-10-demo-discussion-thread.25117/
leethemackem said:
The clinch games difficult to get to grips with but I think will be awesome once I learn it all
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I actually find the clinch game a little easier. More positions, but still able to vary up strikes. Harder to get countered too.
Personally, I think the submission game is still the hardest. I can't sub ANYONE.
So when your in the single collar tie. i go to action list and in defense theres "counter grapple high" and "counter grapple low" by flicking the stick up or down... now does anyone know how this works exactly..is it
1. were both sitting in a single collar. you go for a small transition up and left apposed to down and to the left. DO I a) flick the stick up to counter grapple? and where does that get me? full clinch? or do i do the opposite and flick down and again where dows that get me..on a side note
i figured out how to reverse trasnitons standing up and no matter where u are say ur single collar and u go for clinch and i reverse u. i end up in over under... so
im just wondering exactly where by flicking up or down on right stick does it get me when were in single collar tie and u check action list under defense.
