Was Aoki's behavior the worst

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Originally posted by: Fjodorz
Date: December 31, 2009 at 09:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

Mod's i beg you do not take this as fighter bashing.. Id like to start a conversation on MMA future what should be done to fighters behaving like this.
Was Aoki's behavior the most unsportmanshiplike conduct you have ever seen? Intentionally snapping opponents arm and then flipping birds to his face after that?
I mean how low can you go, ofc this is MMA and you are supposed to win but i never wanted to see a "sport" which could really relate to that "human cockfighting"
This was outrageous behavior I think.
 
Originally posted by: Mas-
Date: December 31, 2009 at 09:54 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

Fjodorz said:
Mod's i beg you do not take this as fighter bashing.. Id like to start a conversation on MMA future what should be done to fighters behaving like this.
Was Aoki's behavior the most unsportmanshiplike conduct you have ever seen? Intentionally snapping opponents arm and then flipping birds to his face after that?
I mean how low can you go, ofc this is MMA and you are supposed to win but i never wanted to see a "sport" which could really relate to that "human cockfighting"
This was outrageous behavior I think.
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Did you watch that fight??
Aoki let go just when the ref tapped his back to let go..
Hirota didn't tap not aoki's fault.
Ps. Hirota was talking sht before the fight and i am not to sure aoki flipped the bird cause he did it to the crowd i think it was number 1 sign.
Pps. you suck at trolling.
 
Originally posted by: JonnyF
Date: December 31, 2009 at 09:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

Does flipping someone off have the same meaning in Japan?
 
Originally posted by: Mas-
Date: December 31, 2009 at 09:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

JonnyF said:
Does flipping someone off have the same meaning in Japan?
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Wondering that to but i don't think he was.. cause guy or mayhem or schavalo didn't say anything :S
 
Originally posted by: Fjodorz
Date: December 31, 2009 at 09:58 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

Mas- said:
Fjodorz said:
Mod's i beg you do not take this as fighter bashing.. Id like to start a conversation on MMA future what should be done to fighters behaving like this.
Was Aoki's behavior the most unsportmanshiplike conduct you have ever seen? Intentionally snapping opponents arm and then flipping birds to his face after that?
I mean how low can you go, ofc this is MMA and you are supposed to win but i never wanted to see a "sport" which could really relate to that "human cockfighting"
This was outrageous behavior I think.
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Did you watch that fight??
Aoki let go just when the ref tapped his back to let go..
Hirota didn't tap not aoki's fault.
Ps. Hirota was talking sht before the fight and i am not to sure aoki flipped the bird cause he did it to the crowd i think it was number 1 sign.
Pps. you suck at trolling.
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Yea I watched the fight, and im not trolling on this, Hirota didnt have time to tap when Aoki turned it to a armbar, from that "shouldercrank" or whatever that would be called no idea, he just snapped his arm and ofc he let go, since the arm was already in two pieces.. thats why the ref tapped on his back too.. then flipping the bird after that.. I would say its really bad behavior from his part.
 
Originally posted by: Mas-
Date: December 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

Fjodorz said:
Mas- said:
Fjodorz said:
Mod's i beg you do not take this as fighter bashing.. Id like to start a conversation on MMA future what should be done to fighters behaving like this.
Was Aoki's behavior the most unsportmanshiplike conduct you have ever seen? Intentionally snapping opponents arm and then flipping birds to his face after that?
I mean how low can you go, ofc this is MMA and you are supposed to win but i never wanted to see a "sport" which could really relate to that "human cockfighting"
This was outrageous behavior I think.
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Did you watch that fight??
Aoki let go just when the ref tapped his back to let go..
Hirota didn't tap not aoki's fault.
Ps. Hirota was talking sht before the fight and i am not to sure aoki flipped the bird cause he did it to the crowd i think it was number 1 sign.
Pps. you suck at trolling.
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Yea I watched the fight, and im not trolling on this, Hirota didnt have time to tap when Aoki turned it to a armbar, from that "shouldercrank" or whatever that would be called no idea, he just snapped his arm and ofc he let go, since the arm was already in two pieces.. thats why the ref tapped on his back too.. then flipping the bird after that.. I would say its really bad behavior from his part.
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lol you do know that if you don't tap in a fight the other fighter has the right to break your arm to end the fight?? AOki wants to end the fight... he isn't here to show mercy.
 
Originally posted by: Fjodorz
Date: December 31, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

Ofcourse he can break it, but he didnt allow Hirota any time to tap, thus im making this thread was it unsportsmanlikeconduct, if all you can say to me here that it was great move and sub, and youre allowed to do that, please leave since i know that, im talking about how ppl should behave even if the rules allow it.
For reference, Check Nate Macguart, vs Demian Maia, Nate could have blown Maia's head in that match, he chose not to.
 
Originally posted by: JonnyF
Date: December 31, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

MMA is accepted in Japan, and you have a problem with what Aoki did. Yet, when it's struggling to be legalized in the states and Brock does something similar it's the greatest thing that anyone could do for MMA. You're just a UFC nuthugging troll. You even use an alternate spelling of Fedor and are anti-Fedor.
 
Originally posted by: Beaun
Date: December 31, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

He should have tapped long before the break, he had no chance of getting out. But after the fight was uncalled for.
 
Originally posted by: Mas-
Date: December 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

Fjodorz said:
Ofcourse he can break it, but he didnt allow Hirota any time to tap, thus im making this thread was it unsportsmanlikeconduct, if all you can say to me here that it was great move and sub, and youre allowed to do that, please leave since i know that, im talking about how ppl should behave even if the rules allow it.
For reference, Check Nate Macguart, vs Demian Maia, Nate could have blown Maia's head in that match, he chose not to.
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YOur reference is horrible cause maia was out. here is my reference hendo vs. Bisping.. shh now.
And If you don't tap you get a broken limb. Giving time to tap LOL your joking right?
that is like giving time to get out of the sub, no one would give it...
Ps. you clearly don't watch ADCC or any other BJJ tourney, you should see the result of not tapping there
 
Originally posted by: DrMMA618
Date: December 31, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

Mas- said:
Fjodorz said:
Mod's i beg you do not take this as fighter bashing.. Id like to start a conversation on MMA future what should be done to fighters behaving like this.
Was Aoki's behavior the most unsportmanshiplike conduct you have ever seen? Intentionally snapping opponents arm and then flipping birds to his face after that?
I mean how low can you go, ofc this is MMA and you are supposed to win but i never wanted to see a "sport" which could really relate to that "human cockfighting"
This was outrageous behavior I think.
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Did you watch that fight??
Aoki let go just when the ref tapped his back to let go..
Hirota didn't tap not aoki's fault.
Ps. Hirota was talking sht before the fight and i am not to sure aoki flipped the bird cause he did it to the crowd i think it was number 1 sign.
Pps. you suck at trolling.
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Aoki was the one who talked trash first by saying "No one in the world knows who the Sengoku LW Champ is."
 
Originally posted by: Mas-
Date: December 31, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

DrMMA618 said:
Mas- said:
Fjodorz said:
Mod's i beg you do not take this as fighter bashing.. Id like to start a conversation on MMA future what should be done to fighters behaving like this.
Was Aoki's behavior the most unsportmanshiplike conduct you have ever seen? Intentionally snapping opponents arm and then flipping birds to his face after that?
I mean how low can you go, ofc this is MMA and you are supposed to win but i never wanted to see a "sport" which could really relate to that "human cockfighting"
This was outrageous behavior I think.
Click to expand...
Did you watch that fight??
Aoki let go just when the ref tapped his back to let go..
Hirota didn't tap not aoki's fault.
Ps. Hirota was talking sht before the fight and i am not to sure aoki flipped the bird cause he did it to the crowd i think it was number 1 sign.
Pps. you suck at trolling.
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Aoki was the one who talked trash first by saying "No one in the world knows who the Sengoku LW Champ is."
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No actually Hirota started it when took a jab at Aoki's stand up than aoki said i will show you my fight game and he broke his arm.
 
Originally posted by: ChiTownMMA
Date: December 31, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

You don't wait for someone to tap because you don't know when the actual 'break' would happen. Your opponent should know when to tap, which is the beauty of the sport of BJJ as a martial art. Ideally, in a real-world situation, you get someone in an armbar who was trying to mug you, and you go, 'You give me back my wallet, or I'll break your arm'.
In MMA or organized grappling, you go until someone taps, either verbally or physically.
With your logic, you'd probably admonish Mir when he broke the Maine-iac's arm. No tapping there. You'd probably admonish anytime someone went to sleep, too, and didn't tap.
How are you going to wait for someone to tap in competition? Just because you've got a hold (choke or jointlock) on someone doesn't mean that you have complete control of the situation. That split second you'd in theory 'give' someone the opportunity to tap means they can roll out of it, reverse or sweep you, or just escape. The responsibility of tapping is to the opponent, then the referee.
I'm not saying you don't let go when you think you've broken someone's arm or put someone to sleep, but that is what the ref is also for.
 
Originally posted by: Mas-
Date: December 31, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

CopperHeart said:
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that isn't the sub it is the lead up to it though
 
Originally posted by: Mas-
Date: December 31, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

syhawaiian said:
You don't wait for someone to tap because you don't know when the actual 'break' would happen. Your opponent should know when to tap, which is the beauty of the sport of BJJ as a martial art. Ideally, in a real-world situation, you get someone in an armbar who was trying to mug you, and you go, 'You give me back my wallet, or I'll break your arm'.
In MMA or organized grappling, you go until someone taps, either verbally or physically.
With your logic, you'd probably admonish Mir when he broke the Maine-iac's arm. No tapping there. You'd probably admonish anytime someone went to sleep, too, and didn't tap.
How are you going to wait for someone to tap in competition? Just because you've got a hold (choke or jointlock) on someone doesn't mean that you have complete control of the situation. That split second you'd in theory 'give' someone the opportunity to tap means they can roll out of it, reverse or sweep you, or just escape. The responsibility of tapping is to the opponent, then the referee.
I'm not saying you don't let go when you think you've broken someone's arm or put someone to sleep, but that is what the ref is also for.
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i guess he wanted Aoki to beg hirota to tap.. TAP TAP TAP BRO I GOT YOU TAP TAP MAN FCK TAP I AM NOT ALLOWED TO BREAK YOUR ARM ACCORDING TO THIS IDIOT>> TAP MANN
 
Originally posted by: Fjodorz
Date: December 31, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

This is how John Morgan saw it..
With a hammerlock in place, and the weight of his body against Hirota's single arm, Aoki cranked the hold until the arm snapped. The match was immediately halted, though it was far too late to save the arm. Aoki stood up, and in a show of sportsmanship that would make Brock Lesnar blush, stuck a middle finger in the face of his injured opponent.
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Do you think Morgan is a troll too mas-?
 
Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: December 31, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

syhawaiian said:
You don't wait for someone to tap because you don't know when the actual 'break' would happen. Your opponent should know when to tap, which is the beauty of the sport of BJJ as a martial art. Ideally, in a real-world situation, you get someone in an armbar who was trying to mug you, and you go, 'You give me back my wallet, or I'll break your arm'.
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After you get your wallet, break his arm anyway, so he can't fight back.
 
Originally posted by: Mas-
Date: December 31, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

Fjodorz said:
This is how John Morgan saw it..
With a hammerlock in place, and the weight of his body against Hirota's single arm, Aoki cranked the hold until the arm snapped. The match was immediately halted, though it was far too late to save the arm. Aoki stood up, and in a show of sportsmanship that would make Brock Lesnar blush, stuck a middle finger in the face of his injured opponent.
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Do you think Morgan is a troll too mas-?
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Where does he talk about it being wrong to break the arm cause hirota didn't tap..
fail harder?
 
Originally posted by: Fjodorz
Date: December 31, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-aokis-behavior-the-worst.20935/

Im still talking about unsportsmanbehavior? do you have hard time understanding what is the subject?
 
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