was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (POLL)

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Originally posted by: SupermanUFC
Date: December 09, 2011 at 06:04 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Considering the prior isssues with rashad and forrest making inappropriate comments, I'm wondering what you think. I know most of u don't condone what miguel said. The moment he tweeted it I was like cmon bro, forrest just caught heat for that lol. But many ppl would make the point that forrest and evans made worse statements. Yet, they have suffered no reprocussions.
 
Originally posted by: chriscrowing
Date: December 09, 2011 at 06:22 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
I think Dana found it necessary to draw a line.
Forrest's statement is understandable in context of his sense of humour (well established in two books and a stint as TUF coach) and his justification makes sense to me - I say similar things on Twitter and Facebook all the time, more making a point about how messed up the modern world is - admittedly Twitter, with it's reduced content isn't the best forum for such things.
Rashad's statement was off the cuff and in context as a piece of trash talk, not that bad. It's clear he didn't MEAN it.
Torres statement is very much in the vein of a running joke some of my buddies have about 'surprise sex', but that is something said in a closed group of friends, with the mutual knowledge that we know the jokee to be joking and not in nay way advocating rape. There is big difference between friends making a dark joke in a closed group and a well-known sportsman putting the same thing out on a social network.
Similarly, I have to say that I've come pretty close to deleting Torres from my Twitter feed for a seemingly never ending run of pretty misogynistic statements and general disrespect towards women. I've got a dark sense of humour myself, but posting immature, laddish, demeaning stuff EVERY day wears away my tolerance. He doesn't entertain or inform me on Twitter, but he does make me roll my eyes, like an over compensating locker room jerk might.
Of course, Rashad & Forrest are top of the card, TUF winners while Torres is a WEC import who's name value isn't nearly as developed, so he's easier to cut. However given he's on the outer reaches of the title picture at 135, he's still a valuable asset to the UFC and Dan wouldnt have taken his release lightly.
IMHO, Dana had to draw a line to shake the fighters into acting a bit more professionally in their social network interactions as they are not just representing themselves, but the company and the sport and MMA can do without projecting an image of macho misoginy to go along with the ever-present 'blood sport' jibes.
 
Originally posted by: fishfryer
Date: December 09, 2011 at 06:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
Does anyone really care what fighters say, about anything, at all? There is something seriously wrong with the world when it is a person's job to beat another person senseless and they lose that job for just saying something.
No, I have no idea what torres, rashad or forrest said because it doesn't f---ing matter.
 
Originally posted by: vfrex
Date: December 09, 2011 at 06:38 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
I think Torres will be back. Dana probably wants to scare him into making more intelligent decisions about what to tweet. Torres has been a Zuffa guy for a long time.
 
Originally posted by: Magson13
Date: December 09, 2011 at 07:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
Where's the option for "None of them did anything wrong"?
 
Originally posted by: MikeyHatTrick
Date: December 09, 2011 at 08:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
this is perfect timing
I have a presentation for my employment law classes regarding Social networking
 
Originally posted by: itadakimasu
Date: December 09, 2011 at 08:57 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
The problem here is that it wasn't even a bad tweet.
So they're setting a precedent to cut people for bulls---. What about Joe Rogan, is he safe? Joe Rogan has alot more followers than Torres and he tweets more explicit stuff all the time. He also talks about stuff on his podcast that people who would censor torres must also hate...
 
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon
Date: December 09, 2011 at 09:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
fishfryer said:
Does anyone really care what fighters say, about anything, at all? There is something seriously wrong with the world when it is a person's job to beat another person senseless and they lose that job for just saying something.
No, I have no idea what torres, rashad or forrest said because it doesn't f**king matter.
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Originally posted by: mpelaezpc
Date: December 09, 2011 at 09:22 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
The real culprit of all these scandals is Joe San. He is the reason everyone is up and arms about rape in MMA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Son
Son pleaded guilty to felony vandalism in 2008 and was placed on probation. As a condition of his plea agreement, Son was required to provide a DNA sample. In 2008, the DNA sample was linked to a 1990 gang rape.
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If anyone can get the GIF of him getting his nads smashed that would be great.
 
Originally posted by: itadakimasu
Date: December 09, 2011 at 09:27 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
mpelaezpc said:
The real culprit of all these scandals is Joe San. He is the reason everyone is up and arms about r*** in MMA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Son
Son pleaded guilty to felony vandalism in 2008 and was placed on probation. As a condition of his plea agreement, Son was required to provide a DNA sample. In 2008, the DNA sample was linked to a 1990 gang r***.
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If anyone can get the GIF of him getting his nads smashed that would be great.
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Was he convicted for the 1990 offense? Isn't there a statute of limitations?
 
Originally posted by: BlindBanshee
Date: December 09, 2011 at 09:48 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
optimus828 said:
Was he convicted for the 1990 offense? Isn't there a statute of limitations?
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There are statutes of limitations on rape and stuff, but they got him on conspiracy to murder and torture I think, which don't have statutes of limitations.
 
Originally posted by: KungFuHustle
Date: December 09, 2011 at 10:03 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
mpelaezpc said:
The real culprit of all these scandals is Joe San. He is the reason everyone is up and arms about r*** in MMA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Son
Son pleaded guilty to felony vandalism in 2008 and was placed on probation. As a condition of his plea agreement, Son was required to provide a DNA sample. In 2008, the DNA sample was linked to a 1990 gang r***.
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If anyone can get the GIF of him getting his nads smashed that would be great.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/57Mva-3n7TY[/youtube]
 
Originally posted by: Brick
Date: December 09, 2011 at 10:18 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
lol, at this moment poll is 24-1.
The people have spoken.
 
Originally posted by: mpelaezpc
Date: December 09, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
KungFuHustle said:
mpelaezpc said:
The real culprit of all these scandals is Joe San. He is the reason everyone is up and arms about r*** in MMA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Son
Son pleaded guilty to felony vandalism in 2008 and was placed on probation. As a condition of his plea agreement, Son was required to provide a DNA sample. In 2008, the DNA sample was linked to a 1990 gang r***.
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If anyone can get the GIF of him getting his nads smashed that would be great.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/57Mva-3n7TY[/youtube]
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Haha thanks!
 
Originally posted by: NYR30AILD
Date: December 09, 2011 at 12:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
Brick said:
lol, at this moment poll is 24-1.
The people have spoken.
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42-1 now!
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: December 09, 2011 at 01:13 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
Here's my thing.
The UFC has built it's empire on the fact that this is REAL s---. Real people, real fights. It's gritty, the President swears during interview/press conferences. It's all real people s---. Then they turn around and fire someone for a joke (not even a really offensive joke) that we probably joke around with our friends about all the time. Then it's suddenly taboo to be a real person with maybe a darker sense of humor? I don't get this one personally whether Torres was selling out stadiums or not he's getting the short end of the stick. It's not like Twitter is (a) reputable by any means (think of all the account "hacking") or (b) something that should be held against you for your job. If he would have said this in an interview with the media...then I can understand it. Otherwise this is bulls---.
 
Originally posted by: NYR30AILD
Date: December 09, 2011 at 01:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
Reckin007 said:
If he would have said this in an interview with the media...then I can understand it. Otherwise this is bulls**t.
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Or maybe a live press conference streaming free on the internet with the UFC President standing right next to him? Rashad's was so much worse.
 
Originally posted by: reghartner
Date: December 09, 2011 at 01:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
NYR30AILD said:
Reckin007 said:
If he would have said this in an interview with the media...then I can understand it. Otherwise this is bulls**t.
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Or maybe a live press conference streaming free on the internet with the UFC President standing right next to him? Rashad's was so much worse.
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you aren't helping.
neither was bad. they were f---ing jokes. they didnt hurt anyone.
 
Originally posted by: NYR30AILD
Date: December 09, 2011 at 01:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
reghartner said:
NYR30AILD said:
Reckin007 said:
If he would have said this in an interview with the media...then I can understand it. Otherwise this is bulls**t.
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Or maybe a live press conference streaming free on the internet with the UFC President standing right next to him? Rashad's was so much worse.
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you aren't helping.
neither was bad. they were f**king jokes. they didnt hurt anyone.
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I didn't think either was bad. I have the same sense of humor as a Forrest or a Miguel. Miguel is my favorite guy to follow on Twitter. Just pointing out that out of the 2, Rashad's was a much more punishable offense.
 
Originally posted by: reghartner
Date: December 09, 2011 at 01:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/was-mr-torres-cut-warranted-considering-all-things-poll.43890/

Re: was Mr. Torres' cut warranted considering all things? (P
i get what you are trying to do but by saying one is 'more punishable' that implies that they are both at least somewhat punishable...
my point is that they are not and that this whole situation is a waste of everyone's time, especially dana and miguel's
 
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