Werdum vs Overeem or Fedor vs Werdum 2

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MemphisMMA86
Date: June 27, 2010 at 06:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

Which one do you think should happen and why?
I think Werdum should get his title shot. He earned it. The winner was supposed to get one so they should stick to that. If Strikeforce wants to succeed then they must make people care about their belt. Putting off title fights weakens the championship.
Fedor deserves a rematch. But, not right away. Work the title into the picture then do it.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: JonnyRico
Date: June 27, 2010 at 06:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

I'd like to see a rematch, but not so soon. I'd be intrigued by a Fedor vs Big Foot and Fabricio vs Overeem on the same card. Hell if they could get this card together it would be one of their best
Fabricio Werdum vs Overeem (Hw Championship)
Fedor vs Big Foot (Contender's fight, cant write fedor off just yet IMO)
Babalu vs Dan Henderson
Erin Toughhill vs Cyborg Santos (Womens Championship)
Jodh Thomson vs Lyle Beerbohm

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: parsons99
Date: June 27, 2010 at 07:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

I think you have to give Werdum the title shot. That makes for a great fight. Fedor should get back in the cage asap and fight whoever.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Noodles4-LJ4
Date: June 27, 2010 at 08:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

I hate back to back rematch's unless it's (Machida vs. Shogun) or bad reffing rematch should always be two fights after the first. And the Title has to mean something

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: WannaB
Date: June 27, 2010 at 08:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

selfishly, the only fights I want to see are Overeem v Fedor and Fedor v Henderson (some type of catchweight). Both are very longshots, I know, but I like the matchups.
Werdum gets pounded brutally by Overeem.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: June 27, 2010 at 10:22 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

Neither will happen ....in Strikeforce anyways. It'll be gone by then.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: jayeMOSH
Date: June 28, 2010 at 07:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

What's funny to me is that it really looks like SF has lost control of its fighters and it's being ran like the wild west. You have fighters just dictating their own fights, making them right their in the ring, it seems like the fighters don't even take the belt seriously.
Look at Babalu completely turning down the title shot. Obviously he didn't want to fight his friend, but besides that he was just like... ehh, nah I don't care about that, I'll fight Dan Henderson. Now they tried to hype up Werdum/Overeem and he's like, no I've already beat him, I'll just fight Fedor again.
Regardless, it's kind of funny cuz no one seems to know what's going on. Fedor against Big Foot seems like a silly fight to me. I mean, I just REALLY want to see him fight the best. Nothing against Silva, but dammit. I think Strikeforce needs to just say, look Werdum, you need to fight Overeem, that's the only fight for you right now. Think how much money they could make on a PPV card where they had Werdum/Overeem and Fedor fighting, and maybe even the Dan Henderson/Babalu match, King Mo, etc. Just f---ing go all out on that s---... lol

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MikeLowry
Date: June 28, 2010 at 08:17 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

Werdum Vs Overeem an Rogers Vs Fedor 2 on the same card!!!
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[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: GorgeousGeorge
Date: June 28, 2010 at 08:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

MikeLowry said:
Werdum Vs Overeem an Rogers Vs Fedor 2 on the same card!!!
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rogers is coming off two losses with one being fedor. it should be silva vs fedor. i like the other matchup though.
gg
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[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: GorgeousGeorge
Date: June 28, 2010 at 08:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

GoodGame said:
What's funny to me is that it really looks like SF has lost control of its fighters and it's being ran like the wild west. You have fighters just dictating their own fights, making them right their in the ring, it seems like the fighters don't even take the belt seriously.
Look at Babalu completely turning down the title shot. Obviously he didn't want to fight his friend, but besides that he was just like... ehh, nah I don't care about that, I'll fight Dan Henderson. Now they tried to hype up Werdum/Overeem and he's like, no I've already beat him, I'll just fight Fedor again.
Regardless, it's kind of funny cuz no one seems to know what's going on. Fedor against Big Foot seems like a silly fight to me. I mean, I just REALLY want to see him fight the best. Nothing against Silva, but dammit. I think Strikeforce needs to just say, look Werdum, you need to fight Overeem, that's the only fight for you right now. Think how much money they could make on a PPV card where they had Werdum/Overeem and Fedor fighting, and maybe even the Dan Henderson/Babalu match, King Mo, etc. Just f**king go all out on that s**t... lol
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it does seem that way, i agree. that's why sf needs to make werdum vs overeem. however, credit to babalu and werdum ... they at least called out tough guys in hendo and fedor, while denying the title bouts. i think babalu is undecided on 205-195-185, while werdum was acting more as a act of respect towards a legend that was beaten for the first time.
gg
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[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: IvanCarranza
Date: June 28, 2010 at 08:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

This is what it comes down to. Like Captain Morgan said the belts for Strikeforce mean nothing really. No disrespect but if you want to be at the top you have to be in the UFC. I'm not saying that Strikeforce champions can't compete in the UFC, I'm saying that's where they have to be if they want to be considered the best. On a different retrospect though, this is what I anticipated. The Strikeforce heavyweights don't care about the title, they care more about beating Fedor! That is bigger than the title IMO. Now that Fabricio Werdum has done this feat, he wants to prove to everyone that it wasn't a fluke so he calls him out again.
Seems like everything that Strikeforce planned out is not happening the way they wanted. It will be interesting how things pan out from here, and what match ups they decide on.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: jayeMOSH
Date: June 28, 2010 at 08:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

GorgeousGeorge said:
GoodGame said:
What's funny to me is that it really looks like SF has lost control of its fighters and it's being ran like the wild west. You have fighters just dictating their own fights, making them right their in the ring, it seems like the fighters don't even take the belt seriously.
Look at Babalu completely turning down the title shot. Obviously he didn't want to fight his friend, but besides that he was just like... ehh, nah I don't care about that, I'll fight Dan Henderson. Now they tried to hype up Werdum/Overeem and he's like, no I've already beat him, I'll just fight Fedor again.
Regardless, it's kind of funny cuz no one seems to know what's going on. Fedor against Big Foot seems like a silly fight to me. I mean, I just REALLY want to see him fight the best. Nothing against Silva, but dammit. I think Strikeforce needs to just say, look Werdum, you need to fight Overeem, that's the only fight for you right now. Think how much money they could make on a PPV card where they had Werdum/Overeem and Fedor fighting, and maybe even the Dan Henderson/Babalu match, King Mo, etc. Just f**king go all out on that s**t... lol
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it does seem that way, i agree. that's why sf needs to make werdum vs overeem. however, credit to babalu and werdum ... they at least called out tough guys in hendo and fedor, while denying the title bouts. i think babalu is undecided on 205-195-185, while werdum was acting more as a act of respect towards a legend that was beaten for the first time.
gg
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I completely agree. I never thought about this until you had mentioned it on today's show. After looking at it, the Werdum thing with Fedor does seem like complete respect, and yeah, why not fight Hendo if you're Babalu. I also agreed with Money Morgan today when he said he thought that the Strikeforce titles held little weight, and that maybe to some of the fighters in SF, they're more about the biggest fights they can get. Makes sense.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: parker25
Date: June 29, 2010 at 08:54 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

I mean at the end of the day, if Strikeforce wants to make their titles sought after and legit, they need to make the matchups (aka Overeem v Werdum) to make it so. You can't continue having matchups like Rogers v Overeem, where the contender just LOST and got a title shot!?! No one is ever going to take the championship seriously with matchups like that.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fedorfan
Date: June 29, 2010 at 12:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

let's think about this for second. It's a pretty obvious answer on what's gonna happen. After that Werdum fight Fedor has only one fight left on his contract. Does anyone in their right mind actually think Fedor and M-1 is not gonna get his rematch for his final fight? It's not even a question. Unless Fedor and M-1 sign an extension for one more fight, there's no way Fedor is fighting anyone else besides werdum and Werdum even says he wants the rematch. AListair will probably beat Werdum, than what? Fedor fights a guy that lost to Alistair, then beats Werdum and leaves not fighting their top guy? That doesn't make sense at all. No matter what u guys think or want SF to do, Fedor is gonna get his rematch for his final fight, that's a fact. M-1 is not gonna let Fedor fight anyone else until they avenge his perfect record.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Ph1sh
Date: June 29, 2010 at 01:08 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

Don't forget though Scott.......Vadim was talking s--- about Overeem before the Werdum fight, when Fedor was still thinking of trying to fight Barnett. I think that many people, like Werdum and Fedor, are trying to blackball Alistar to deminish his title and his accomplishments due to his roid allegations. That being said, I really could see Fedor getting his rematch, then leaving if that is how it works out. He would have avenged his only* loss and had an arguement to still be the #1 HW in the world. I agree with your last two sentences, and I will add that Werdum beat Alistar so if Fedor wins the rematch with Werdum, he could have reasons not to really need to fight Overeem.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Ph1sh
Date: June 29, 2010 at 01:10 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

parker25 said:
I mean at the end of the day, if Strikeforce wants to make their titles sought after and legit, they need to make the matchups (aka Overeem v Werdum) to make it so. You can't continue having matchups like Rogers v Overeem, where the contender just LOST and got a title shot!?! No one is ever going to take the championship seriously with matchups like that.
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I think that has already happened just by the fact that Babaloo declined the fight with Mo, and Werdum declined the fight with Overeem. I know Babaloo is friends with Mo, but even training partners like Fitch and Kos have said they would fight if it were for a title......it is just that the UFC titles mean more IMO, and also in the opinions of SF fighters as well.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MikeLowry
Date: June 29, 2010 at 01:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

Overeem Vs Werdum an Fedor Vs Rogers 2 (on the same card)
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Originally posted by: Ph1sh
Date: June 29, 2010 at 02:25 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

MikeLowry said:
Overeem Vs Werdum an Fedor Vs Rogers 2 (on the same card)
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+1...I think you are on right on Mike, but I hope Scott Coker is thinking the same thing. Only thing is, why would they give Fedor a fight with Rogers instead of Fedor vs Bigfoot? Maybe because Rogers did so well vs Fedor? I think they need to maybe do Bigfoot vs Rogers and Overeem vs Werdum, and let Fedor sit for while like he normally does between fights.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fedorfan
Date: June 29, 2010 at 03:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/werdum-vs-overeem-or-fedor-vs-werdum-2.27259/

MikeLowry said:
Overeem Vs Werdum an Fedor Vs Rogers 2 (on the same card)
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not gonna happen. I'm telling you guys, your really under-estimating the power of M-1 and Fedor has on negotations. Heck they were under contract(which according to Scott Coker was rock solid)and still re-negotiated for more money just before this fight. You don't think they are gonna get what they want and fight Werdum on their last fight of Fedor's contract? Sillyness people. Just sillyness. Fedor and M-1 get what they want or they walk, have since day 1, this will be no exception and plus now that Werdum says he wants the rematch, Fedor says he wants the rematch and Coker said he does too and it would be a good PPV card, in my eyes it's already a done deal.