what a diference betewen nate marquardt and dan henderson

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: carl258
Date: August 30, 2009 at 02:33 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

what a class of act was nate last night and what a diference on dan henderson
the figthers knows when the oponents are ko out of his heads and out on cold fashion, nate knew that and not trow another punch, like mousai did against babalu sobral, dan henderson with his elbow against bisping only did more damage to mma and worse is that mma fans are happy with that, guys like nate and mousai make mma to have more credibility of been a sport, mma fans should give the props for this kind of behaivor and trash the behaivor that dan henderson did the last time

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: August 30, 2009 at 02:39 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

Dan didnt do any harm to the sport. The only one still talking about it is you. The media and even mma sites have gotten past it and recognized it for what it was worth. Legal and unnecessary.
And then random threads like this pop up and try to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Let's focus our energy on things that matter, like convincing Mark Kerr to retire.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: carl258
Date: August 30, 2009 at 02:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

phoenix-mma said:
Dan didnt do any harm to the sport. The only one still talking about it is you. The media and even mma sites have gotten past it and recognized it for what it was worth. Legal and unnecessary.
And then random threads like this pop up and try to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Let's focus our energy on things that matter, like convincing Mark Kerr to retire.
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i dont know what sites are you reading because even here in mmajunkie there was article about that on dan henderson, yahoo sports got one article about it too, alot of people and sites think in that time that this is the kind of hits that make damage to mma since it put mma as a no sport category and this is what mma is figthing to have the category of sport like others, (specially with boxing)

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: SupermanUFC
Date: August 30, 2009 at 02:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

lock this shitttt!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: August 30, 2009 at 02:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

ranch258 said:
phoenix-mma said:
Dan didnt do any harm to the sport. The only one still talking about it is you. The media and even mma sites have gotten past it and recognized it for what it was worth. Legal and unnecessary.
And then random threads like this pop up and try to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Let's focus our energy on things that matter, like convincing Mark Kerr to retire.
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i dont know what sites are you reading because even here in mmajunkie there was article about that on dan henderson, yahoo sports got one article about it too, alot of people and sites think in that time that this is the kind of hits that make damage to mma since it put mma as a no sport category and this is what mma is figthing to have the category of sport like others, (specially with boxing)
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yeah there was an article back when it happened. Yahoo sports also wrote a whole article about Brock Lesnar showing up at the press conference with a bud light (the difference is drinkability).
So a legal punch puts mma in a "no sport category" ?
I would make the argument that an illegal knee to the head or an elbow to the back of the head would cause more damage, which is probably why the're illegal. Kudos to Nate for keeping it clean (and legal) this time around.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Grafik
Date: August 30, 2009 at 02:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

why? thread starter made a valid point.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: carl258
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

Grafik said:
why? thread starter made a valid point.
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thank you for see my valid point, i know that people like to see those hits and big KO, i love that too the first hit that KO bisping but the flying elbow was a chicken coward hit and nate can do a hit like that last night even if he did that he has alot of defends for his part since he has damian on his back so he has no clear vision if he was out or not but as a figther he knows is over and there is no reason to make more damage to the other oponent, a class on act

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

yeah, i dont want the thread locked. I want someone to explain to me how a legal blow is somehow a direct connection to a fighters lack of moral fiber. And a fighter that has been deducted points for multiple illegal blows is appointed the poster child of good sportsmanship.
If we dont consider Nate a "dirty fighter" for what he did in the Leites fight, then how is Dan a dirty fighter for landing a legal blow?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: gmony
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

Although I dont think the Hendo punch was to far out of line he should have kept his mouth shut about it. There is a debate in Vancouver about sanctioning a UFCevent and when they opened the lines on a local talk show the Monday following 100 to debate the topic the Hendo punch and following comments were the first thing the bleeding hearts who want to control what I choose to watch argued with.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Knippz
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

Stupid argument. You fight until the ref stops you. Period.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: keystone
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

I think the majority in the past have agreed that the punch was fine, but prolly shoulda just kept quiet about it in the post fight interview.
wait, why are we talking about this for the 10000th time

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

I thought the real reason Marquardt held back was because he would have clearly smoked Maia in the back of the head. Had Maia been face up, there's a good chance Marquardt would have thrown the extra punch. At least in my opinion.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: metalmike00
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

keystone said:
I think the majority in the past have agreed that the punch was fine, but prolly shoulda just kept quiet about it in the post fight interview.
wait, why are we talking about this for the 10000th time
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because rogan said nate was a class act for not punching maia again. now someone brings damn back up.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: hustlertsi
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

ranch258 said:
what a class of act was nate last night and what a diference on dan henderson
the figthers knows when the oponents are ko out of his heads and out on cold fashion, nate knew that and not trow another punch, like mousai did against babalu sobral, dan henderson with his elbow against bisping only did more damage to mma and worse is that mma fans are happy with that, guys like nate and mousai make mma to have more credibility of been a sport, mma fans should give the props for this kind of behaivor and trash the behaivor that dan henderson did the last time
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The difference is that Maia is a class act who tries not to hurt any of his opponents. Bisping on the other hand is a deuche who openly said he would have done the same to Hendo and is not mad about what Hendo did. Hendo was more than justified. After all the smack that Bisping talked there was no chance in hell Hendo would let him recover. Did you watch that Knockdown in the 3rd round by Nogueira? Coutures body zig zagged on the way down just as bad as Maia. Nogueira still followed up with strikes and couture still recovered. bottom line is you dont stop until the ref stops it.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: carl258
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

phoenix-mma said:
yeah, i dont want the thread locked. I want someone to explain to me how a legal blow is somehow a direct connection to a fighters lack of moral fiber. And a fighter that has been deducted points for multiple illegal blows is appointed the poster child of good sportsmanship.
If we dont consider Nate a "dirty fighter" for what he did in the Leites fight, then how is Dan a dirty fighter for landing a legal blow?
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nate lose that fight that was for him to win so he pay the price for those hits that you mentioned, and when was suggest that dan was a dirty fighter? there is a big diference betewen said that you have class and play as a dirty figther, in this thread there is no suggestion that dan henderson is a dirty figther, the thing that is been said is that henderson made a bad choice to put another hit on an alredy down figther that could make him big damage and one of the reasons that anti mma people keeps telling of mma on why is a c--- fight thing and not a sport

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Johnny419
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:25 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

stop talking about Hendo's actions, way worse has happened before this (Rampage vs Wandy III just to name one)

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: carl258
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:25 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

gmony said:
Although I dont think the Hendo punch was to far out of line he should have kept his mouth shut about it. There is a debate in Vancouver about sanctioning a UFCevent and when they opened the lines on a local talk show the Monday following 100 to debate the topic the Hendo punch and following comments were the first thing the bleeding hearts who want to control what I choose to watch argued with.
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you hit the nail, it was very suspicious if he was keeping his mouth shut since it was so clear that he was out and others figthers over the time are shown that a figther can tell when his oponents are out but still if he would not said anything this could not happen in the first place

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

ranch258 said:
phoenix-mma said:
yeah, i dont want the thread locked. I want someone to explain to me how a legal blow is somehow a direct connection to a fighters lack of moral fiber. And a fighter that has been deducted points for multiple illegal blows is appointed the poster child of good sportsmanship.
If we dont consider Nate a "dirty fighter" for what he did in the Leites fight, then how is Dan a dirty fighter for landing a legal blow?
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nate lose that fight that was for him to win so he pay the price for those hits that you mentioned, and when was suggest that dan was a dirty fighter? there is a big diference betewen said that you have class and play as a dirty figther, in this thread there is no suggestion that dan henderson is a dirty figther, the thing that is been said is that henderson made a bad choice to put another hit on an alredy down figther that could make him big damage and one of the reasons that anti mma people keeps telling of mma on why is a c**k fight thing and not a sport
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So, we're not talking about dirty fighters, but who has more class? In general, or based on 1 punch?
By all accounts Dan Henderson is one of the most humble, respectful fighters in all of mma. When is the last time you heard him call out another fighter in an interview? Yet Nate gets up there every chance he gets and calls out AS. He makes excuses,"Oh, he hasnt faced Nate Marquatdt....not THIS Nate Marquardt". And lady night with his "if you someone who can get in there and kick Anderson Silvas butt then you'll give it to me" speech.
And i agree with Jak....as im rewatching the fight right now, the reason he held up his right was because it clearly would have been a strike to the back of the head

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

**Let me ask everyone a question. If that was Anderson Silva he was fighting last night do you think he would have thrown 1 punch and walked away?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-a-diference-betewen-nate-marquardt-and-dan-henderson.17139/

phoenix-mma said:
**Let me ask everyone a question. If that was Anderson Silva he was fighting last night do you think he would have thrown 1 punch and walked away?
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I thought i brought a pretty good perspective in my previous post in relation to why Nate didn't throw that punch. As far as Silva... Silva vs. Irvin, Silva throws 3 or 4 big shots to an already downed and almost turtling Irvin...