What if Forrest losses?

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheCombatConnoisseur
Date: October 31, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

If Forrest loses to Tito Ortiz at UFC 106 is he
close
to the chopping block? If Forrest loses at UFC 106 that is going to be 3 consecutive losses, and what if losses in dominating fashion?
My opinion is that he will not be cut after 3 straight defeats. However, what if he suffers a fourth consecutive defeat? Then it may become a real possibility. Forrest is easily one of the UFC's most marketable athletes because of his aggressive fighting style and his charismatic personality. I think the UFC would have a very difficult ever letting this guy go and I personally would hate for that to happen (I am a big Forrest Griffin fan). That being said, how many losses do you think it would take for the UFC to sever ties with Forrest Griffin?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Tgilb2007
Date: October 31, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

TheCombatConnoisseur said:
If Forrest loses to Tito Ortiz at UFC 106 is he
close
to the chopping block? If Forrest loses at UFC 106 that is going to be 3 consecutive losses, and what if losses in dominating fashion?
My opinion is that he will not be cut after 3 straight defeats. However, what if he suffers a fourth consecutive defeat? Then it may become a real possibility. Forrest is easily one of the UFC's most marketable athletes because of his aggressive fighting style and his charismatic personality. I think the UFC would have a very difficult ever letting this guy go and I personally would hate for that to happen (I am a big Forrest Griffin fan). That being said, how many losses do you think it would take for the UFC to sever ties with Forrest Griffin?
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If Forrest loses, I am just not sure if his ego could take it honestly. But, it would also depend on HOW he lost. A close/split decision I don't think is enough to place him in the unemployment line.
Dana also knows that Forrest is very marketable, and wants to keep Forrest in the UFC. A loss to Tito would just solidify Forrest being a gatekeeper, and gets fed up and coming fighters to see if they are worth competing against higher rank opponents.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buckhunter620
Date: October 31, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

Forrest will not get cut. He lost to
Rashad
and
Anderson Silva
, two of the best fighters out there. He is still a good fighter, and he just had the belt less than a year ago.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Tgilb2007
Date: October 31, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

buckhunter620 said:
Forrest will not get cut. He lost to
Rashad
and
Anderson Silva
, two of the best fighters out there. He is still a good fighter, and he just had the belt less than a year ago.
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Its not really who he is losing to, but the way it has happened. Rashad caught Forrest, and the punished Forrest on the ground with some brutal GnP. Anderson toyed with him, until the KO punch was tossed.
If he continues on his current downward spiral, he has a good chance at being demoted to gatekeeper status, and honestly, probably never have a title fight again.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheCombatConnoisseur
Date: October 31, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

buckhunter620 said:
Forrest will not get cut. He lost to
Rashad
and
Anderson Silva
, two of the best fighters out there. He is still a good fighter, and he just had the belt less than a year ago.
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Of course he won't be cut after 2 losses to Rashad and Anderson, but say he has lost to Tito and then he losses to his next opponent. You don't think that might merit consideration for the axe? Forrest is a very emotional guy and say if continues to lose that may really mess with his psyche. He has already shown to be a bit mentally fragile, I simply don't think he could take something like a 4 fight losing streak.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Tgilb2007
Date: October 31, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

TheCombatConnoisseur said:
buckhunter620 said:
Forrest will not get cut. He lost to
Rashad
and
Anderson Silva
, two of the best fighters out there. He is still a good fighter, and he just had the belt less than a year ago.
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Of course he won't be cut after 2 losses to Rashad and Anderson, but say he has lost to Tito and then he losses to his next opponent. You don't think that might merit consideration for the axe? Forrest is a very emotional guy and say if continues to lose that may really mess with his psyche. He has already shown to be a bit mentally fragile, I simply don't think he could take something like a 4 fight losing streak.
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I would see more of a mandatory suspension type deal, where Forrest just takes time away from fighting all together, before being axed. Forrest, while not the BEST fighter, is very marketable for the UFC. He has already had his face on the UFC video game, has been in title fights, and hell, even released a book. Dana White wouldn't let someone like that get signed by another org.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: unbeaten101
Date: October 31, 2009 at 01:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

If he loses to tito he should be on the choppin block but we all know forrest is there puppy and he will be safe for a while. People love him too much.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: rocklobster
Date: October 31, 2009 at 01:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

He is going to lose but he won't get cut. He will get some easier fights after this one.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheCombatConnoisseur
Date: October 31, 2009 at 01:11 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

Tgilb2007 said:
I would see more of a mandatory suspension type deal, where Forrest just takes time away from fighting all together, before being axed. Forrest, while not the BEST fighter, is very marketable for the UFC. He has already had his face on the UFC video game, has been in title fights, and hell, even released a book. Dana White wouldn't let someone like that get signed by another org.
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I think that it would be a very hard decision for the UFC, hell I love the guy. That being said, he may be so mentally broken by something like a 4 fight losing streak that it may really diminsish his skill-set. Something like that could completely change him as a fighter, possibly into a fighter that isn't as marketable (i.e. he becomes tentative or he doesn't go through the same preparation for his fights). I would hate to see it happen to a former champion and a guy that has down a lot for the sport, but it is possible.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: james111
Date: October 31, 2009 at 01:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

i saw on the blog awhile ago, dana said forrest and Bonnar were like sons to him and they are going together till the end.
so from his talks seems like they will never be cut.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: D253
Date: October 31, 2009 at 01:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

I highly doubt the UFC will cut Forrest.
I have heard in the past (on one of Dana White's video blogs) Dana himself tell Bonnar after a loss to not sweat it he is like one of Dana's kids and will always have a home in the UFC. If that applies for Bonnar, I'm sure it does for Griffin as well.................

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: D253
Date: October 31, 2009 at 01:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

I highly doubt the UFC will cut Forrest.
I have heard in the past (on one of Dana White's video blogs) Dana himself tell Bonnar after a loss to not sweat it he is like one of Dana's kids and will always have a home in the UFC. If that applies for Bonnar, I'm sure it does for Griffin as well.................
Besides, Forrest isn't even fighting on the undercard yet.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Marktheshark
Date: October 31, 2009 at 01:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

forest griffin and stefan bonnar will NEVER be released form the ufc unless they go into junie browning mode but then its still a maybe there are people in the ufc who will NEVER be cut they are GSP , Brock, griffin, bonnar , and lidell probab;ly a few more im just lazy

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: WHYM
Date: October 31, 2009 at 03:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

this is borderline hilarious. the guy has lost TWO fights in a row (1 a title fight and 1 to anderson silva) and everyone is talking about what happens if he loses 4 in a row. Hell, let's just create threads for every fighter and ask what happens if they lose 4 in a row. Let's let him actually lose to tito before we talk about him losing the fight after tito.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Twister_Hold101
Date: October 31, 2009 at 03:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

Forrest isn't going anywhere. Dana has said may times that Forrest, Bonner and Liddell will always have a place in the UFC and he will never release them. It may not be in the cage but they will always have a job if they want it. If Rampage can go on a Rampage and not get released, then Forrest is going to have to do somthing really crazy like eat a baby on live tv.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: cool14
Date: October 31, 2009 at 05:10 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

rocklobster said:
He is going to lose but he won't get cut. He will get some easier fights after this one.
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+1 . If Tito beats him , his next 2 or 3 fights will be against cans and up & comers.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheCombatConnoisseur
Date: October 31, 2009 at 07:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

Re: What if Forrest loses?
WHYM said:
this is borderline hilarious. the guy has lost TWO fights in a row (1 a title fight and 1 to anderson silva) and everyone is talking about what happens if he loses 4 in a row. Hell, let's just create threads for every fighter and ask what happens if they lose 4 in a row. Let's let him actually lose to tito before we talk about him losing the fight after tito.
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The reason why I brought it up because more than most fighters this an actually possibility. Tito is no push over and he going to come into this match-up extremely hungry. So I was posing a purely hypothetical question, what if Tito beats Forrest? Can Forrest afford another loss after that? I am just saying, is Forrest an untouchable (i.e. like Liddell or Couture)?
And by the way he didn't just lose to Silva he got completely crushed and then ran away with his tail tucked between his legs. I mean come on, TRAVIS LUTTER put up a better fight against Anderson than Forrest. What if he goes out there and gets flattened by Tito. I wonder if you would still think it would be "borderline hilarious"?
To clarify, I too think it would be ridiculous talk about Forrest getting axed after only two high profile losses but that is not the situation that I presented.
One more thing: How the hell is Bonner untouchable? Is it because of the TUF 1 fight? What else has he done, while in the UFC, to merit the status of guys like Liddell and Forrest? I guarantee you IF the UFC gives Bonner another fight and he loses, there is no chance he gets another opportunity in the UFC (without a winning hiatus in another organization).

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: October 31, 2009 at 07:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

Forrest aint ever going to be cut, he took a bullet for the company.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: rocklobster
Date: October 31, 2009 at 08:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

bjj_rage said:
Forrest aint ever going to be cut, he took a bullet for the company.
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I'm a little scared to ask, but please explain.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: brendanc45
Date: October 31, 2009 at 08:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/what-if-forrest-losses.18991/

pritty sure forrest and bonnar can't be cut