What is EPK Exactly?
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wolf said:
What does EPK stand for. Is it a website? How did this invitiational come about? How has Junkie done in the past?
Sorry...don't know s**t about this EPK thing. :lol:
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Sir Epkenpo is a Fantasy Fighting Hall of Famer.
He is known through these parts as Mr. Fundamentals.
He put this invitational together for the first time over the New Years events in 2008.
The events saw Fight HQ, MMAJunkie, MMAWeekly, and TAGG Radio battle it out in a single elimination tournament.
While Epkenpo announced the event, he ceased to have any actually involvement.
Tagg Radio were the champs the first year after disposing of MMAWeekly in the finals.
The following year Fight HQ ceased to exist besides that scum JasonDerris. Therefore they were replaced by fantasy newcomers known as that other site.
Those 4 teams competed with Weekly defeating TAGG Radio in the finals.
This year marks the third year of this competition.
wolf said:
Awesome...Junkie needs to capture the crown this year. Thanks blue.
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I doubt it.
Weekly and TAGG still have the top teir fighters and have consistantly proven it.
Talent wise, I believe that Junkie comes in 3rd or 4th.
Weekly has beaten Junkie at every chance they have gotten outside of when I lead a team of JEC fighters in to show Junkie who was boss on a ACFL card at Weekly and we dominated their faces.
buffaloblue said:
wolf said:
Awesome...Junkie needs to capture the crown this year. Thanks blue.
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I doubt it.
Weekly and TAGG still have the top teir fighters and have consistantly proven it.
Talent wise, I believe that Junkie comes in 3rd or 4th.
Weekly has beaten Junkie at every chance they have gotten outside of when I lead a team of JEC fighters in to show Junkie who was boss on a ACFL card at Weekly and we dominated their faces.
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Interesting. You'd think with MMAJunkie getting all the awards and being widely known as the best source for MMA news that the JFF would have the best. What do you think is the reason for Junkie not stacking up talent wise?
That's simple. Weekly's FF leagues have been around a lot longer (we are talking years longer) than Junkie, and such, they have a lot more experience than the majority of Junkie's fighters. If you take the top 20 fighters from each league (JFC and UJC), you would probably be quite surprised at how many of them are originally Weekly fighters.
buffaloblue said:
wolf said:
Awesome...Junkie needs to capture the crown this year. Thanks blue.
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I doubt it.
Weekly and TAGG still have the top teir fighters and have consistantly proven it.
Talent wise, I believe that Junkie comes in 3rd or 4th.
Weekly has beaten Junkie at every chance they have gotten outside of when I lead a team of JEC fighters in to show Junkie who was boss on a ACFL card at Weekly and we dominated their faces.
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i was apart of that
(i think im pretty sure)
wolf said:
buffaloblue said:
wolf said:
Awesome...Junkie needs to capture the crown this year. Thanks blue.
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I doubt it.
Weekly and TAGG still have the top teir fighters and have consistantly proven it.
Talent wise, I believe that Junkie comes in 3rd or 4th.
Weekly has beaten Junkie at every chance they have gotten outside of when I lead a team of JEC fighters in to show Junkie who was boss on a ACFL card at Weekly and we dominated their faces.
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Interesting. You'd think with MMAJunkie getting all the awards and being widely known as the best source for MMA news that the JFF would have the best. What do you think is the reason for Junkie not stacking up talent wise?
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Its because we are not TUF noobs, we understand the sport, we can read.
Lets face it, the JFF is here because of MMAWeekly.
John Morgan brought MMAWeekly's fantasy fighting to this site with the same setup.
Granted Junkie has furthered fantasy fighting immensely thanks to Buffaloblue, but the reality is that, they are just now building the guys that can truely put up an adequet challenge.
There are some very smart guys at this site, but so many of the guys are Noobs and Sherdog Fight Finders to pick the fights.
Sure there are guys like metalmike00 and Castella who truely look at fights, but you have to understand as well, a lot of their teammates success are because of their insite.
I promise you if Goodcat had to train on his own, the guy wouldnt be that good.
Thats nothing personal against Goodcat, but quite honestly, I dont think the guy is that talented, I think he is able to sift through his teammates opinions and come out with good answers.
Sure by record and accomplishments he is a surefire hall of famer, but I have little doubt he woudl struggle away from one of his couple of teams should he ever leave.
People sometimes are afraid to staight come out and say it, but the way teams train together now is far over the top of what it used to be.
At weekly, there were teams who would bounce a fight or two off each other, now teams are giving each other full fledged reach around during training.
I tried that for a while, then I started going old school, looking at the fights, thinking about the matchups, and making my picks.
It made me a champion.
The fact is the brain capacity and logical reasoning of Weekly fighters is simply better.
buffaloblue said:
Its because we are not TUF noobs, we understand the sport, we can read.
Lets face it, the JFF is here because of MMAWeekly.
John Morgan brought MMAWeekly's fantasy fighting to this site with the same setup.
There are some very smart guys at this site, but so many of the guys are Noobs and Sherdog Fight Finders to pick the fights.
Sure there are guys like metalmike00 and Castella who truely look at fights, but you have to understand as well, a lot of their teammates success are because of their insite.
I promise you if Goodcat had to train on his own, the guy wouldnt be that good.
Thats nothing personal against Goodcat, but quite honestly, I dont think the guy is that talented, I think he is able to sift through his teammates opinions and come out with good answers.
Sure by record and accomplishments he is a surefire hall of famer, but I have little doubt he woudl struggle away from one of his couple of teams should he ever leave.
People sometimes are afraid to staight come out and say it, but the way teams train together now is far over the top of what it used to be.
At weekly, there were teams who would bounce a fight or two off each other, now teams are giving each other full fledged reach around during training.
I tried that for a while, then I started going old school, looking at the fights, thinking about the matchups, and making my picks.
It made me a champion.
The fact is the brain capacity and logical reasoning of Weekly fighters is simply better.
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I wasn't aware of the fact that Weekly FF has been around that much longer...and that our style of fighting exists because of weekly. I thought weekly was newer than junkie hahaha. Interesting stuff. It should have made sense though. When I was looking through the members at weekly a lot of them were the same as junkie, but they had more fights over there than they did here.
anted Junkie has furthered fantasy fighting immensely thanks to Buffaloblue, but the reality is that, they are just now building the guys that can truely put up an adequet challenge.
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while it's true that you've done a lot for the JFF...the fact that you refer to yourself in the 3rd person and bask in your own glory makes me sick. :lol:
wolf said:
I wasn't aware of the fact that Weekly FF has been around that much longer...and that our style of fighting exists because of weekly. I thought weekly was newer than junkie hahaha. Interesting stuff. It should have made sense though. When I was looking through the members at weekly a lot of them were the same as junkie, but they had more fights over there than they did here.
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I started fantasy fighting sometime around late 2004 early 2005 I think. So its been around 7 or 8 years at least.
MMAWeekly has been around a long time and was kinda the basis for TAGG radio to even start.
Ryan "Hitman" Bennett owned MMAWeekly and held Sound Off radio show from noon to 1pm each day.
For me, during college, this was a time I made sure I could listen. He built a nice audience with regulars such as Sam All Jam and Rick from NY being regular collers.
Additionally, Frank Trigg would often cohost with Ryan.
Ryan called some WEC and even a UFC here or there. He loved the sport as much as anyone I have ever seen.
In May of 2006 Ryan's brother came on the MMAWeekly boards and reported that he had been in a fatal car accident. As they could not confirm the identiy of Ryan's brother it was immediately deleted. I remember sitting up all night just not believing what I had read or didnt want to think about the possibility as he became part of my everyday routine.
He had infact gotten in a car accident and pasted away leaving his wife and kids.
There was an outpouring of support for the "Hitman" as people helped a fund set up for him.
There was a fight card held for him where the likes of Wes Sims and others fought for free in Ryan's name. Randy Couture and GSP sold their shorts on EBAY with the funds going to Ryan.
A few months later these was a midday void for many of us when we used to listen to Ryan as Damon Martin and Jeff Cain continued to run soundoff but did so in primetime.
GeorgousGeorge a few months after his passing wanted to start a radio show as he was but a poster on MMAWeekly at the time that had befriended Trigg. He talked to me and a couple other forum regulars on mmaweekly about it for several months before it actually became a reality.
9 months later TAGG radio was born when he finally got Trigg on board. Heck, I even compiled and updated the original rankings for TAGG Radio on their site. Its been a long road.
A few months after that they became a content partner with MMAJunkie and needed someone to do recaps for free.
John Morgan got his feet wet with recaps at the time and was soon offered a part time gig with Junkie which would later become full time and get him out of managing KingofAbuelos restaurants.
Tagg radio was eventually bought by MMAJunkie and rebranded MMAJunkie Radio as it stands today.
John brought the fantasy fighting to this forum when he came over here, and most importnatly he never forgot the friends he made at mmaweekly as just a regular guy on the forums.
When I found out that TAGG was becoming more involved with Junkie and John had really taken off I made a full time move over here cause I wanted to help my friends. Thats what brought me here and caused me to do the scoring log and start the JEC.
In life you stick by your friends, thats something I have always believed.
Thats your history lesson for the day.
buffaloblue said:
wolf said:
I wasn't aware of the fact that Weekly FF has been around that much longer...and that our style of fighting exists because of weekly. I thought weekly was newer than junkie hahaha. Interesting stuff. It should have made sense though. When I was looking through the members at weekly a lot of them were the same as junkie, but they had more fights over there than they did here.
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I started fantasy fighting sometime around late 2004 early 2005 I think. So its been around 7 or 8 years at least.
MMAWeekly has been around a long time and was kinda the basis for TAGG radio to even start.
Ryan "Hitman" Bennett owned MMAWeekly and held Sound Off radio show from noon to 1pm each day.
For me, during college, this was a time I made sure I could listen. He built a nice audience with regulars such as Sam All Jam and Rick from NY being regular collers.
Additionally, Frank Trigg would often cohost with Ryan.
Ryan called some WEC and even a UFC here or there. He loved the sport as much as anyone I have ever seen.
In May of 2006 Ryan's brother came on the MMAWeekly boards and reported that he had been in a fatal car accident. As they could not confirm the identiy of Ryan's brother it was immediately deleted. I remember sitting up all night just not believing what I had read or didnt want to think about the possibility as he became part of my everyday routine.
He had infact gotten in a car accident and pasted away leaving his wife and kids.
There was an outpouring of support for the "Hitman" as people helped a fund set up for him.
There was a fight card held for him where the likes of Wes Sims and others fought for free in Ryan's name. Randy Couture and GSP sold their shorts on EBAY with the funds going to Ryan.
A few months later these was a midday void for many of us when we used to listen to Ryan as Damon Martin and Jeff Cain continued to run soundoff but did so in primetime.
GeorgousGeorge a few months after his passing wanted to start a radio show as he was but a poster on MMAWeekly at the time that had befriended Trigg. He talked to me and a couple other forum regulars on mmaweekly about it for several months before it actually became a reality.
9 months later TAGG radio was born when he finally got Trigg on board. Heck, I even compiled and updated the original rankings for TAGG Radio on their site. Its been a long road.
A few months after that they became a content partner with MMAJunkie and needed someone to do recaps for free.
John Morgan got his feet wet with recaps at the time and was soon offered a part time gig with Junkie which would later become full time and get him out of managing KingofAbuelos restaurants.
Tagg radio was eventually bought by MMAJunkie and rebranded MMAJunkie Radio as it stands today.
John brought the fantasy fighting to this forum when he came over here, and most importnatly he never forgot the friends he made at mmaweekly as just a regular guy on the forums.
When I found out that TAGG was becoming more involved with Junkie and John had really taken off I made a full time move over here cause I wanted to help my friends. Thats what brought me here and caused me to do the scoring log and start the JEC.
In life you stick by your friends, thats something I have always believed.
Thats your history lesson for the day.
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Damn...The Hitman's legacy will never be forgotten. I wish I could have listened to him live while he was still alive. Sadly I was just getting into MMA back then and didn't know MMA Radio existed. It's great to know that because of him, MMAJunkie Radio and Weekly exist. A part of him will always live on through the internet and in the minds and souls of Fantasy Fighters around the world. Thanks for writing that up Blue, i learned a great deal today.
wolf said:
What does EPK stand for. Is it a website? How did this invitiational come about? How has Junkie done in the past?
Sorry...don't know s**t about this EPK thing. :lol:
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Simple concept.
Enough of the "what ifs".
Site A picks its best fighters, Site B picks theirs, and they fight.
Winner take all, lets see who can lay claim to being the home of the best Fantasy Fighters on the Internet.
Meatmallet said:
EP can you please get the Weekly captain to stop d**k tucking me and give me a roster and the how and where we will create our match ups?
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You forget he does nothing.
Snapcase will get with you when the time is right.
There is plenty of time.
Rumor is events will be 126 and 127 but nothing official till epkenpo says so.
buffaloblue said:
Meatmallet said:
EP can you please get the Weekly captain to stop d**k tucking me and give me a roster and the how and where we will create our match ups?
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You forget he does nothing.
Snapcase will get with you when the time is right.
There is plenty of time.
Rumor is events will be 126 and 127 but nothing official till epkenpo says so.
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Those are the events. He pmed me today.
Im growing tired of these games.
Rosters aren't due yet.
Each site needs time to make 100% sure they have the best roster possible.
If the Captains all agree with their rosters, match-ups will likely be made by Jan 28, leaving a week for s--- talking.
I'm predicting weekly to lose in the first round.