When is MMA going to can Dan Miragliotta?

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Shed
Date: August 22, 2009 at 01:03 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Miragliotta is the pitts. Loves stopping fights early and ruining fighters careers. Here is a short clip on him but he has stopped many more over the course of his career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af_T_N73RHE
What do you think is his worst performance yet? I wish I knew which fights he is refereeing before I buy a PPV card.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: jvillain
Date: August 22, 2009 at 01:09 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Re: When is UFC going to can Dan Miragliotta?
The refs don't work for the UFC.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ez215
Date: August 22, 2009 at 01:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Re: When is UFC going to can Dan Miragliotta?
correct me if im wrong but i dont think the ufc has the authority to can a referee. i think they're appointed by state athletic commissions.
if they were in house refs i think it would be too easy for a fight to be fixed or altered one way or another and go against trying to get mma in as one of the main sports.
that said, i hated the sodallah stoppage. the previous fights were lacklustet and this one could've been exciting but, dan the man saw something we didnt i guess

 

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Originally posted by: hansard85
Date: August 22, 2009 at 01:27 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Re: When is UFC going to can Dan Miragliotta?
ez215 said:
correct me if im wrong but i dont think the ufc has the authority to can a referee. i think they're appointed by state athletic commissions.
if they were in house refs i think it would be too easy for a fight to be fixed or altered one way or another and go against trying to get mma in as one of the main sports.
that said, i hated the sodallah stoppage. the previous fights were lacklustet and this one could've been exciting but, dan the man saw something we didnt i guess
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The dude has sinister motives or he just isn't a big follower of the sport. I'd really love to see ref's who actually know the fighter's characteristics and make educated decisions about stopping a fight. I seriously don't understand how this dude still has a job after the Kimbo fight. i mean those Elitexc announcers were the most bias in the business and even they were screaming horrible stoppage. I feel bad for Amir, a better ref wouldve known how Amir fights and would've let the fans see the show the fighters were trying to put on.

 

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Originally posted by: mike494
Date: August 22, 2009 at 01:47 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

You know, the first time I remember seeing Miragliotta was in the Kimbo/Thompson fight, and I remember thinking that he was horrible. Since then, he' done a good job. The guy I am really impressed with is Josh Rosenthal. I honestly don't know if Ive ever said this about a ref before, but Ive never seen a call of his that I disagreed with.

 

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Originally posted by: squib
Date: August 22, 2009 at 08:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Re: When is UFC going to can Dan Miragliotta?
ez215 said:
correct me if im wrong but i dont think the ufc has the authority to can a referee. i think they're appointed by state athletic commissions.
if they were in house refs i think it would be too easy for a fight to be fixed or altered one way or another and go against trying to get mma in as one of the main sports.
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this is the case, but I gather that the promotion can request certain refs and not others.
Big John doesn't ref at UFC events since coming out of retirement, and Lesnar requested that Mazigatti not ref his second UFC fight. I guess it's up to the commission to either honour the fighter's request or ignore it.
but Miragliotta is just awful.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Marktheshark
Date: August 22, 2009 at 01:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Re: When is UFC going to can Dan Miragliotta?
squib said:
ez215 said:
correct me if im wrong but i dont think the ufc has the authority to can a referee. i think they're appointed by state athletic commissions.
if they were in house refs i think it would be too easy for a fight to be fixed or altered one way or another and go against trying to get mma in as one of the main sports.
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this is the case, but I gather that the promotion can request certain refs and not others.
Big John doesn't ref at UFC events since coming out of retirement, and Lesnar requested that Mazigatti not ref his second UFC fight. I guess it's up to the commission to either honour the fighter's request or ignore it.
but Miragliotta is just awful.
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the reason Big John doesn;t ref the UFC anymore is he is a regiestered ref or w.e in California only right now everywhere else has enough refs so since the UFC hasn;t been to cali since Big John retired hes not refing for them yet and Dan mirgliota isn't that bad ill say the kimbo thing was bad but when u see a guys ear increase by aabout twice its size in 2 seconds some people tend to worry for the saftey of that guys hearing maybe?? idk the amir stoppage wasn't that bad amir has fought once in his life and dan is supposed to know that he can take punishment when hes on his knees making no attempt to get up or defend him self and takes 4 -5 unansweerred shots to the head???

 

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Originally posted by: Chug_Life
Date: August 22, 2009 at 02:33 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

you never know he could get better with more experience, people were saying the same things about Herb Dean not too long ago, he's one of the better refs now days.

 

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Originally posted by: atikiN
Date: August 22, 2009 at 03:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Before people yell for refs to get scrapt, maybe they should ask themselves if there's someone better out there who can replace them. I'm not a fan of Dan or Mazagatti but if the only replacement available for them is someone worse then whats the point of getting rid of them?

 

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Originally posted by: GabeGambino
Date: August 22, 2009 at 07:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Dude Amir got robbed by this guy hardcore. I didn't know he was this bad though...

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Albert
Date: August 22, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

No one got robbed. Its your job to defend yourself when your opponent is delivering blows to your head. If the ref sees that your not covering up or retaliating or responding to his calls then he will call it. Thats his job. We may not like it but its his job to protect the fighters in the ring. Amir should have made a better effort.

 

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Originally posted by: squib
Date: August 22, 2009 at 10:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Re: When is UFC going to can Dan Miragliotta?
Marktheshark said:
squib said:
ez215 said:
correct me if im wrong but i dont think the ufc has the authority to can a referee. i think they're appointed by state athletic commissions.
if they were in house refs i think it would be too easy for a fight to be fixed or altered one way or another and go against trying to get mma in as one of the main sports.
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this is the case, but I gather that the promotion can request certain refs and not others.
Big John doesn't ref at UFC events since coming out of retirement, and Lesnar requested that Mazigatti not ref his second UFC fight. I guess it's up to the commission to either honour the fighter's request or ignore it.
but Miragliotta is just awful.
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the reason Big John doesn;t ref the UFC anymore is he is a regiestered ref or w.e in California only right now everywhere else has enough refs so since the UFC hasn;t been to cali since Big John retired hes not refing for them yet and Dan mirgliota isn't that bad ill say the kimbo thing was bad but when u see a guys ear increase by aabout twice its size in 2 seconds some people tend to worry for the saftey of that guys hearing maybe?? idk the amir stoppage wasn't that bad amir has fought once in his life and dan is supposed to know that he can take punishment when hes on his knees making no attempt to get up or defend him self and takes 4 -5 unansweerred shots to the head???
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Didn't know that about Big John, but I thought there was bad blood between Dana & him. at any rate...
as far as Miragliotta goes, I'm not referring to the Kimbo-Thompson fight, or even the Amir fight (although he was out of position, but s--- happens quickly in a fight, and every ref makes mistakes). I think it's just the number of questionable actions on his part - particularly when he poked Herring in the eye during the pre-fight instructions at Herring-Lesnar (not that it affected the outcome of the fight).
Given the number of refs, all of whom have made mistakes, that are now working fights for the UFC, they could really send Miragliotta elsewhere for retooling.

 

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Originally posted by: Bob002
Date: August 23, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Reffing is a tough job. They have to walk a very, very fine line. Step over it in either direction and people will call for you to get canned. I honestly would rather they err on the side of caution than let it go too far and have a fatality in the Octagon.

 

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Originally posted by: kcrazy
Date: August 23, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Bob002 said:
Reffing is a tough job. They have to walk a very, very fine line. Step over it in either direction and people will call for you to get canned. I honestly would rather they err on the side of caution than let it go too far and have a fatality in the Octagon.
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No doubt, I've been thinking about trying to get a reffing license but it definately a high presure job, no one wants to be the ref that let a man die in the cage.

 

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Originally posted by: Bob002
Date: August 23, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

kcrazy said:
Bob002 said:
Reffing is a tough job. They have to walk a very, very fine line. Step over it in either direction and people will call for you to get canned. I honestly would rather they err on the side of caution than let it go too far and have a fatality in the Octagon.
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No doubt, I've been thinking about trying to get a reffing license but it definately a high presure job, no one wants to be the ref that let a man die in the cage.
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I think there was some outrage not long ago when Yves Lavigne let one go that people thought should've been stopped. The outrage after that was similar to this.

 

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Originally posted by: kcrazy
Date: August 23, 2009 at 11:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Bob002 said:
I think there was some outrage not long ago when Yves Lavigne let one go that people thought should've been stopped. The outrage after that was similar to this.
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That was probably Pete Spratt vs Brown, and it wasn't so much he let it go but rather he had half stopped it but second guessed himself and let it continue. Bad call, which is unfortunate cause he was shaping up to be a great ref before that.

 

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Originally posted by: toerag
Date: August 23, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Make Liddell a ref.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: squib
Date: August 23, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

kcrazy said:
Bob002 said:
I think there was some outrage not long ago when Yves Lavigne let one go that people thought should've been stopped. The outrage after that was similar to this.
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That was probably Pete Spratt vs Brown, and it wasn't so much he let it go but rather he had half stopped it but second guessed himself and let it continue. Bad call, which is unfortunate cause he was shaping up to be a great ref before that.
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Pete Sell vs Matt Brown - he is a good ref, but he admits he messed up.
I've seen some pretty brutal reffing in small shows - where chokes were allowed to be held on until the fighter went into convulsions... that was the worst of it. Then there's all the other errors - standing up fighters while one is putting on a submission, calling the fight when no one tapped, etc...
Fighter safety is the biggest concern, and the outcome of the fight comes second. Refs need to be consistent. But there aren't many experienced refs to go around, and it's one more thing that MMA needs to expand as it continues to grow.

 

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Originally posted by: roxbringer
Date: August 24, 2009 at 02:10 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

Re: When is UFC going to can Dan Miragliotta?
Marktheshark said:
squib said:
ez215 said:
correct me if im wrong but i dont think the ufc has the authority to can a referee. i think they're appointed by state athletic commissions.
if they were in house refs i think it would be too easy for a fight to be fixed or altered one way or another and go against trying to get mma in as one of the main sports.
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this is the case, but I gather that the promotion can request certain refs and not others.
Big John doesn't ref at UFC events since coming out of retirement, and Lesnar requested that Mazigatti not ref his second UFC fight. I guess it's up to the commission to either honour the fighter's request or ignore it.
but Miragliotta is just awful.
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the reason Big John doesn;t ref the UFC anymore is he is a regiestered ref or w.e in California only right now everywhere else has enough refs so since the UFC hasn;t been to cali since Big John retired hes not refing for them yet and Dan mirgliota isn't that bad ill say the kimbo thing was bad but when u see a guys ear increase by aabout twice its size in 2 seconds some people tend to worry for the saftey of that guys hearing maybe?? idk the amir stoppage wasn't that bad amir has fought once in his life and dan is supposed to know that he can take punishment when hes on his knees making no attempt to get up or defend him self and takes 4 -5 unansweerred shots to the head???
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umm talking about the amir stoppage it was bs because how would u feel after getting railed in the back of the head 5 times and yes those punches were in the back of the head

 

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Originally posted by: Marktheshark
Date: August 24, 2009 at 02:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/when-is-mma-going-to-can-dan-miragliotta.16836/

make shonie carter a ref he is the best