When is the Junkie going to have its own ranking system????
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I'm kind of glad they dont.
I barley even look at those rankings anymore because I think they are mostly garbage.
I heart AA but to have him in the top 10 after 2 consecutive loses, no matter how shabby the division is overall, just feels like a sham to me. Same with Couture as good as I think he is - he has lost 2 in a row. To me that is very obviously just personal feelings of the people making up the rankings getting in the way of objectivity(which is impossible in rankings) so I am ok with the junkie deciding against it.
Rankings are pretty much BS. Fun to look at, but in the reality of things, dont really mean much. Rankings just give the huggers a chance to say that this guy was ranked here when so and so beat him, even though he's lost 2 straight fights by KO now, and not ranked anywhere close to that anymore...
If junkie had a ranking system, i'd look, but that's about it. We all have our own opinions about where guys are ranked, and its just another thing for people to b---- about!
dwenger1 said:
yes, we all talk about rankings, but it usually turns into a "this guy is ranked to high, this guy sucks why is he there" kind of conversation. Watch fights, make your own opinions, and they work out just fine!
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isnt that the purpuse of a forum? discuss stuff?
bjj_rage said:
dwenger1 said:
yes, we all talk about rankings, but it usually turns into a "this guy is ranked to high, this guy sucks why is he there" kind of conversation. Watch fights, make your own opinions, and they work out just fine!
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isnt that the purpuse of a forum? discuss stuff?
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It is, but rankings lead to pissing and moaning about where people's favorite fighters are ranked, which leads to other people pissing and moaning about the pissing and moaning... you get where i'm going with this? There's already a ranking thread here, and that is enough!
dwenger1 said:
bjj_rage said:
dwenger1 said:
yes, we all talk about rankings, but it usually turns into a "this guy is ranked to high, this guy sucks why is he there" kind of conversation. Watch fights, make your own opinions, and they work out just fine!
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isnt that the purpuse of a forum? discuss stuff?
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It is, but rankings lead to pissing and moaning about where people's favorite fighters are ranked, which leads to other people pissing and moaning about the pissing and moaning... you get where i'm going with this? There's already a ranking thread here, and that is enough!
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well, personal rankings is what leads to fire up discussions of posters against other posters (wich also include fighter bashing), but if the Junkie had an official Ranking, it wouldnt be poster against poster... also, it really depends on who is making the rankings, and what the system is.
Sedulous said:
I think Junkie should implore a fan voting ranking system for p4p, and all the weight classes. It would be unique and likely more acceptable to MMA fans.
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There are polls about the p4p rankings, go check them if youre that interested how they fare, there you have your junkie ranking then.. just look at the latest poll.
Most of the rankings are faulted not by personal opinions, but by the fact that time makes memories golden.. i try to write down what i mean by this..
Lets take Randy in here, someone mentioned him earlier.. He is still in top 10 in HW because of his career, not because of his latest achievements, also same thing on AA. Those rankings should calculate more heavier the matches that were more recently.. im talking about like last 3 matches being around 50% of your rankings, then next 3 25% next three 15% and so on.. and eventually it would take away too old victories, dont take me wrong, i think there are ppl who have amazing careers.. but lets be real, does it really matter who Randy beated on his first match? Ofc this is just my thought and it probably has as many flaws as other ranking systems does, but i really dont find the logic on the rankings anyways, i keep them as guidelines but not the ultimate truth, and how could i, or someone else, there are like 5-6 different rankings, and they have different orders in them.
Add to the above, they also start every Hockey season, and football, tennis and others, with making old points going away, and if they would do this we would get, more accurate rankings by all means, atleast i think so. I hate to hear when someone says Randy is way harder opponent than Rogers, when Randy really have lost his last two matches in a row, he used to be good, and he even might to get the rolling on again, but at this time, i would bring Rogers higher, since he is unbeaten, even his opponents werent top notch, but you still have to add the fact that Randy lost two in row.
bjj_rage said:
I see every other mayor site having their own rankings, why doesnt the junkie have its own?
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you are just waiting for someone to put fedor atop the p4p rank. :lol: jk
ranking systems are good and i do look at them but when ever someone disagrees with then the first think they do is dis credit them. half the people will like them the other half will say there s---. or im mmaweekly's case 95% of people will say there s---.
bjj_rage said:
I see every other mayor site having their own rankings, why doesnt the junkie have its own?
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I think I remember KOA and BB talking about it and he said that it takes alost of time to objectively put together a ranking system for all the weight classes. Plus there are so many people involved in the site, to have them all agree on it would be virtually impossible. At least I think that's what he said.
Let see if we can get a higher up to chime in for us.
gsbgsb09 said:
rankings give me a headache, the only thing that matters is who's ranked #1
LW: BJ
WW: GSP
MW: A. Silva
LHW. Machida
HW:I want to say Fedor, but I know there will always be an argument on who's ranked #1 at HW, I'm sticking with Fedor though
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I dont think theres an argument at atll, there are only a few guys who will say hes not #1, the aregument is about p4p...
7time said:
bjj_rage said:
I see every other mayor site having their own rankings, why doesnt the junkie have its own?
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I think I remember KOA and BB talking about it and he said that it takes alost of time to objectively put together a ranking system for all the weight classes. Plus there are so many people involved in the site, to have them all agree on it would be virtually impossible. At least I think that's what he said.
Let see if we can get a higher up to chime in for us.
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I think we the "mortals" in this site have to stay away from the rankings, may be the junkie can hire or pay or work or whatever the deal is with some ppl into the Fighting business, call them reporters, ex fighters, fighters or what ever... If we dont like it, so what? some ppl will, some ppl wont, but at least we can discuss here about the junkies ranting instead of constantly bringing to the table rankings from other sites. Not to mention that being the junkie the best MMA site, is a must I think.
You know what I wouldnt mind the junkie doing.
Instead of some sort of Official Ranking system - have a system that they open up for voting every few weeks or after major events.
So allow registered junkies to vote for 1 week in each weight class every fighter(ranking 1-10). So after a major fight like Couture/Nog reopen up the rank voting.
You would of course have people voting just for their favorite fighters etc. but my guess is Carlos Condit is not the favorite of enough people so that my nuthugging #2 WW vote for Condit would mean nothing in the scheme of things.
It would not be any better/worse I think then other rankings but at least it would reflect in general the junkie community and would give us something fun to talk about on the boards.