Originally posted by: RePetepete7 Date: December 20, 2012 at 12:52 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
Woodley has the wrestling to control the fight and the boxing to score points, that combo is proven and he can beat any fighter in the division with that combination of wrestle boxing. The same combo that put Hendricks and Ellenberger in a true number one contender match and the same combo that had Fitch and Koscheck rule the division for years as perennial contenders.
There isnt anything to say that Woodley cant compete with the best. Marquardt is a highly skilled fighter who just went down in weight-- Marquardt also can beat anyone on any night at 170.. The loss says more about Marquardt's skills then Woodley's skills.
Originally posted by: mma_guru333 Date: December 20, 2012 at 01:51 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
smfowns4 said:
I was surprised Maquardt got passed Woodley. I think Woodley beats fighters with questionable takedown defense. This, in my opinion, could be translated to a victory over Hendricks. Overall though, I'd say he loses to all four.
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During which fight has Hendricks shown "questionable takedown defense"??
As far as the OP, I don't dislike Woodley, like most others seem too, but I really don't think he's all that talented. Can he make a home in the UFC, yes. Will he ever break into the top 10? No.
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon Date: December 20, 2012 at 10:57 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
Originally posted by: smfowns4 Date: December 20, 2012 at 11:28 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
mma_guru333 said:
During which fight has Hendricks shown "questionable takedown defense"??
As far as the OP, I don't dislike Woodley, like most others seem too, but I really don't think he's all that talented. Can he make a home in the UFC, yes. Will he ever break into the top 10? No.
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Let's see... Brennaman, Pierce, Koscheck and Story.
Originally posted by: mma_guru333 Date: December 21, 2012 at 09:15 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
smfowns4 said:
Let's see... Brennaman, Pierce, Koscheck and Story.
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Haha, I guess we have completely different definitions of "questionable".
Originally posted by: RePetepete7 Date: December 22, 2012 at 05:28 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
Originally posted by: C-Me-No-More Date: December 22, 2012 at 07:08 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
BRF said:
woodley vs seth baczynski.
both have had long winning streaks snapped in their last outings
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Hmm sounds like a decent enough fight that makes sense,
Him against Story as well but I don't think can hang with anybody that has decent TDD he better sharpen up his tools before he's one and done
Originally posted by: sincitydc Date: December 23, 2012 at 03:55 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
Originally posted by: Spud Date: December 23, 2012 at 08:24 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
Sadly probably top 10-15. His striking isn't great, his jiu jitsu isn't great, but he's got great takedowns and that'll see him win some fights. I still can't get over his inability to pass Paul Daleys guard though, and his acceptance of just putting his head on Daleys torso & holding him down. I'd rather watch Jacob Volkmann fight, and that's saying something.
Originally posted by: smartigan Date: December 23, 2012 at 10:01 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon Date: December 23, 2012 at 10:34 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
Originally posted by: london209 Date: December 23, 2012 at 03:24 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
Originally posted by: BaconBits Date: December 23, 2012 at 03:34 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
He's decent, albeit quite inexperienced fighter. I don't believe in rankings, so I'm not going to rank him, but he's right around the middle of the pack at 170.
Originally posted by: mma_guru333 Date: December 24, 2012 at 12:09 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
Originally posted by: DooDooChaser Date: December 24, 2012 at 03:59 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
phoenix-mma said:
One of the names that seems to have been swept under the rug was Tyron Woodley. His hype train was silenced when he lost to Marquardt, but do people think he was all hype, or a legit contender at 170?
That division is stacked with other wrestlers (GSP, Kos, Fitch, Ellenberger & Hendricks). Will he make any noise in the UFC?
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He was legit for Strikeforce. He looked surprizingly good against Nate. He wasn't nearly as boring. Maybe, it was do to Nate's ability to keep it standing. Nate was highly ranked at MW, before his drop to WW. Nate will make waves at WW in 2013. After Hendrick's he is probably the next contender for the belt. MacDonald will not fight GSP. Yet Nate said he would fight his training partner GSP. Ellenberger will be back in the mix if he defeats Hendricks. As far as Woodley goes he is at the back of the pack. He should be given a shot, due to his performance against Nate. If he continues improving his striking he could surprize some people. However, if his Mom shows up for the fights, then give her free tickets in the very back.
Originally posted by: smfowns4 Date: December 27, 2012 at 03:15 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
Originally posted by: MMA-P6U6N6X Date: December 27, 2012 at 04:25 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
Originally posted by: RedOmega Date: December 27, 2012 at 05:22 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
He`s is 30 now and is still a pure grappler and not a real MMA fighter in my eyes. He would have his moments in the UFC but he will not be more than a gatekeeper and could get cut, even if he goes 2-1 just because he is pretty boring. Reminds me of Thales Leites.
Originally posted by: mma_guru333 Date: December 27, 2012 at 06:34 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
smfowns4 said:
Oh, really now? Do explain..
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He's only been taken down a couple of times in his career and he's probably only spent about 5 minutes on his back throughout his UFC career. I'd have to go back and look through it, but he's always right back up. Nobody has been able to take him down time and time again.
Originally posted by: Ringleader Date: December 27, 2012 at 06:56 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/where-does-tyron-woodley-fit-into-the-ww-picture.50322/
smfowns4 said:
Let's see... Brennaman, Pierce, Koscheck and Story.
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Hendricks won't even need wrestling defense, he'll just knock tyron out. Not that his defense is questionable to begin with .....
