Originally posted by: 67goat Date: November 22, 2013 at 01:21 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
JonnyRico said:
All 3 of Vitor's last wins have. Except for Hendo, the head kick came at the end of a flurry started by an uppercut. Even for Silva, the ref didn't seem to think Vitor was completely done after the kick, so Silva had to drop 2 more to finish the job. It's required more times than not even if it's clear to us that the other guy won't recover and win.
Click to expand...
Because Vitor only has three fights? Or is it that he only has three KOs? (Hint, it's neither.)
And Andersen can't be blamed for having faster reaction times than refs.
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: November 22, 2013 at 01:24 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
Reckin007 said:
and after all this, Hendricks has 1 clean KO.
Click to expand...
2, and those 2 we're over guys that had never been finished with just one strike. The point is, he is a more dangerous one-punch striker, even if there are better strikers than him overall out there.
Originally posted by: BadassCoffee Date: November 22, 2013 at 01:29 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: November 22, 2013 at 01:29 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
67goat said:
Because Vitor only has three fights? Or is it that he only has three KOs? (Hint, it's neither.)
And Andersen can't be blamed for having faster reaction times than refs.
Click to expand...
No, but how many Vitor fights can you list where he just needed 1 strike and it was over? Not many
And it had nothing to do with reaction times, Vitor ate the kick and was flash KO'd there, but when he hit the mat he was looking right at Anderson, more than likely giving the ref the impression that he was not completely done. Then Silva gave him the exclamation point to seal the deal.
Originally posted by: Reckin007 Date: November 22, 2013 at 01:35 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
JonnyRico said:
2, and those 2 we're over guys that had never been finished with just one strike. The point is, he is a more dangerous one-punch striker, even if there are better strikers than him overall out there.
Click to expand...
But he hit Fitch a second time...isn't that against your weird rules of being a KO artist?
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: November 22, 2013 at 01:43 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
Reckin007 said:
But he hit Fitch a second time...isn't that against your weird rules of being a KO artist?
Click to expand...
He beat the ref to the stoppage...He gave Kampmann a follow up too. If you noticed my post earlier, I gave Silva credit for his Vitor kick cause Vitor went out from the kick. None of the 3 fights I just mentioned were flurry stoppages by any means. Another important factor for Johny was that those were the 1st punches he threw/landed in the fight...and that the power is from his HANDS.
Originally posted by: Reckin007 Date: November 22, 2013 at 01:44 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
Originally posted by: 2_1up2_4down Date: November 22, 2013 at 01:55 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
Silva,when he was younger he could do creative strikes that no one could even be able to land. and as he got older he became a devastating counter striker.
if he stay healthy and continues to improve, Pettis.
some of the guys on the list a dangerous strikers but there still has to be a certain level of fight and striking IQ that fighters need to have
Originally posted by: 67goat Date: November 22, 2013 at 02:26 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
JonnyRico said:
No, but how many Vitor fights can you list where he just needed 1 strike and it was over? Not many
And it had nothing to do with reaction times, Vitor ate the kick and was flash KO'd there, but when he hit the mat he was looking right at Anderson, more than likely giving the ref the impression that he was not completely done. Then Silva gave him the exclamation point to seal the deal.
Click to expand...
You say not many, but then you list Johny with all of two. That's more than just a little disingenuous.
You can't simultaneously credit and discount Andersen's KO of Belfort. Since you agreed it was a one strike KO first, then it was a delayed reaction by the ref. Andersen chose not to wait for the ref to fully realize it. That and Griffin give him the same two in the UFC Johny has. I'll give you the fact that they weren't as devastating as the Fitch or Kampmann KOs, but using pure power to KO guys made out of twigs compared to you is much easier than using skill to get a sniper shot.
In terms of best, finesse beats brute strength.
Originally posted by: coreymb Date: November 22, 2013 at 02:27 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
Hendricks has some of the most insane power I've ever seen. Igor v was the best tho at one punch ko power tho. Just thithink he was a natural mw knocking out heavies. Its no surprise the permanent damage to his hand that he has.
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: November 22, 2013 at 02:33 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
67goat said:
You say not many, but then you list Johny with all of two. That's more than just a little disingenuous.
You can't simultaneously credit and discount Andersen's KO of Belfort. Since you agreed it was a one strike KO first, then it was a delayed reaction by the ref. Andersen chose not to wait for the ref to fully realize it. That and Griffin give him the same two in the UFC Johny has. I'll give you the fact that they weren't as devastating as the Fitch or Kampmann KOs, but using pure power to KO guys made out of twigs compared to you is much easier than using skill to get a sniper shot.
In terms of best, finesse beats brute strength.
Click to expand...
I say not many for Vitor cause it's almost none at all. Also, Johny has had a lot shorter of a career than Silva and Vitor. And I don't really count the Forrest KO for Silva cause Forrest didn't really go out as much as he quit.
Originally posted by: Thak27 Date: November 22, 2013 at 03:58 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
JonnyRico said:
Hendricks.
Click to expand...
Pound for pound, there's no doubt it's Hendricks. The fact that he's the only WW on this list says it all.
Originally posted by: MMAFTM13 Date: November 22, 2013 at 04:04 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
Originally posted by: Bucho Date: November 22, 2013 at 04:40 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
MMAFTM13 said:
I think Nelson deserves it. Most times when he connects its usually over.
Click to expand...
Yeah, if I'd read the damn thread title properly I'd have given it to Roy.
Originally posted by: Futastic Date: November 22, 2013 at 05:13 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
Originally posted by: Kyle Robinson Date: November 22, 2013 at 05:58 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
I'd say without a doubt Johnny Hendricks, Will not forget that 46 second knockout of Kampmann for a long time sent him flying to the other side of the cage!
Originally posted by: MuleSkinner Date: November 22, 2013 at 07:06 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
GoodCat said:
Lemme give Tank Abbot some love. Dude was brutal back in the day.
Click to expand...
The dude legitimately put quite a few people to sleep and another one was Butterbean. People can say what they want about Butterbean but flattened ALOT of fighters, most were in a boxing ring though.
Originally posted by: ChrisminaL Date: November 22, 2013 at 07:42 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
Originally posted by: cmvideo75 Date: November 22, 2013 at 08:29 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
OK... all the Hendricks talk this week is making queesy. He's very quickly ascended my least favorite fighter list and he was already pretty high. I just hate his attitude and he should not be on this list (yet). He doesn't have the volume of KOs yet. You want to point to his Kampmann KO, well then I can say the Korean Zombie because he flash KO's Hominick. Kinda stupid right? I think there needs to be a longer track record. He's got a lot of hype right now but there have been way better KO artists than him.
It's like saying Blake Griffin is the best dunker ever. He's really good but he's the flavor of the month. Historically, there have been a ton of guys with better dunks over better competition.
Originally posted by: Spud Date: November 22, 2013 at 08:46 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/whos-the-best-single-strike-knockout-artist.60022/
JonnyRico said:
Anderson and Vitor aren't known for being "single strike" knockout fighters. So yes, there should be a debate
Click to expand...
Selective memories & UFC promotion are the only reasons Hendricks is known as one.
