Why I think GSP vs. Anderson Silva shouldn't happen

Originally posted by: keystone
Date: August 12, 2011 at 08:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

Reckin007 said:
keystone said:
This is what happens when you are bored and hang out on forums too much. Why over analyziz it? Why not just want to watch 2 champions go at it??? rediculous
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LOL..."ridiculous" and pointless response. Every fight gets analyzed dumbass and I stated good reasons why it shouldn't happen in a one fight "superfight". Thanks for coming out though.
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lol u mad
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: August 12, 2011 at 08:38 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

keystone said:
Reckin007 said:
keystone said:
This is what happens when you are bored and hang out on forums too much. Why over analyziz it? Why not just want to watch 2 champions go at it??? rediculous
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LOL..."ridiculous" and pointless response. Every fight gets analyzed dumbass and I stated good reasons why it shouldn't happen in a one fight "superfight". Thanks for coming out though.
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lol u mad
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haha nope not yet, no point
 
Originally posted by: rocklobster
Date: August 12, 2011 at 08:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

Here's a good reason why the fight shouldn't happen:
GSP DOESN'T WANT TO FIGHT AT MW. LET IT GO!
He's too small.
 
Originally posted by: Portillo
Date: August 13, 2011 at 01:00 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

I doubt it will happen. Silva will prob retire next year.
 
Originally posted by: Sapper
Date: August 13, 2011 at 02:21 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

Reckin007 said:
After losing earlier on in his career, he destroyed him twice to win the WW title. Title defense records don't mean much when you are able to actually beat the guy in reality. Those two wins mean more than not defending one more time to tie the record.
Please don't start with the age/prime thing either....Hughes was still in the title hunt both times which means he was more than capable of beating him.
GSP is the greatest WW champion of all time.
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So then by this reasoning who ever beats GSP will be the best WW of all time? Sorry just can't by that. I am not trying to say that GSP won't be the greatest WW of all time. Title defenses is the best way to judge who is the best. You can break it down by who fought who, but the bottom line is who held the belt longer IMO. If it is just who beat who, then we will never have a GOAT in any weight class, because by your reasoning if someone is great and then they lose, they are no longer great. GSP will lose some time in the future, but who ever beats him will not be the greatest WW of all time.
What if Daiz beats him, they rematch and GSP loses again. Does that make Diaz the best WW ever?
 
Originally posted by: MoJoJo
Date: August 13, 2011 at 02:45 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

Sapper said:
Reckin007 said:
After losing earlier on in his career, he destroyed him twice to win the WW title. Title defense records don't mean much when you are able to actually beat the guy in reality. Those two wins mean more than not defending one more time to tie the record.
Please don't start with the age/prime thing either....Hughes was still in the title hunt both times which means he was more than capable of beating him.
GSP is the greatest WW champion of all time.
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So then by this reasoning who ever beats GSP will be the best WW of all time? Sorry just can't by that. I am not trying to say that GSP won't be the greatest WW of all time. Title defenses is the best way to judge who is the best. You can break it down by who fought who, but the bottom line is who held the belt longer IMO. If it is just who beat who, then we will never have a GOAT in any weight class, because by your reasoning if someone is great and then they lose, they are no longer great. GSP will lose some time in the future, but who ever beats him will not be the greatest WW of all time.
What if Daiz beats him, they rematch and GSP loses again. Does that make Diaz the best WW ever?
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If that someone that beats GSP in the future does it twice in dominating fashion while having comparable title defenses and is more dominating overall then yes, that person will be the new greatest WW, like GSP has.
 
Originally posted by: mma_guru333
Date: August 13, 2011 at 02:50 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

Sapper said:
Title defenses is the best way to judge who is the best.
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And by your logic, Tito Ortiz is the greatest LHW ever. Agree or disagree?
 
Originally posted by: MoJoJo
Date: August 13, 2011 at 02:53 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

mma_guru333 said:
Sapper said:
Title defenses is the best way to judge who is the best.
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And by your logic, Tito Ortiz is the greatest LHW ever. Agree or disagree?
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BOOM goes the dynamite!!!!!
 
Originally posted by: Ayor
Date: August 13, 2011 at 03:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

I am a lot more interested in Frankie Edgar vs Cain Velasquez to see who is the best MMA fighter in the world.
 
Originally posted by: DeMo
Date: August 13, 2011 at 08:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

people can say GSP has this fight and that fight at WW and AS has this or that fight but thats all irrevalant, the only thing needed to be done for this fight to happen is GSP goes to Dana and say I want Anderson, and it will be on. GSP has that much respect from Dana, that if he wants it he will get it regardless of if there are 10 guys inline for GSP's title.
 
Originally posted by: Sapper
Date: August 13, 2011 at 10:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

mma_guru333 said:
Sapper said:
Title defenses is the best way to judge who is the best.
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And by your logic, Tito Ortiz is the greatest LHW ever. Agree or disagree?
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In this fact your are right. I do not think Tito is the best LHW ever. I do think he is the second best LHW in the UFC though, right behind Chuck. I will admit this is puts me in a quagmire. I still think right now Hughes is the best WW ever in the UFC. People can always go back and fourth on this kind of subject. It is funny that I am even defending Hughes, because in fact, I don't like him and never have. I would never say that he was a shitty fighter though.
I do think if GSP was asked if he cared about passing Hughes he would say, yes. Why would he go up in weight if he still has a mile stone to pass at WW?
I guess from my quoted post I should have said.
Title defenses is
one of
the best ways to judge who is best.
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This by my own admission is not the only way, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: August 29, 2011 at 11:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

I still don't want this to happen. Silva moving up to 205 makes a lot more sense than GSP moving up for the simple fact that Silva has already beaten two 205lb'ers in dominating fashion and could go for a second title. Plus can you imagine if Jones actually beats Silva?
 
Originally posted by: Flound
Date: August 29, 2011 at 12:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

Sapper said:
Reckin007 said:
He has passed Hughes....twice.
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How? Hughes had seven title defenses in a row. GSP has had six.......
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GSP is the record holder for most consecutive WW title defenses with 6. (all records are UFC records)
Hughes has a total of 7 defenses, but he does not have 7 in a row.
He beat Newton to gain the title despite being knocked out as well. Then Hughes defended against Sakurai, Newton (2), Castillo, Sherk and Trigg. His sixth title defense didn't go so well, losing his belt to BJ. After BJ vacated, Hughes beat Verissimo to get a title shot against a 24year old GSP which gave Hughes the belt again. He defended against Trigg and BJ again, before losing to Georges. So Hughes has a string of 5 consecutive title defenses and then a string of 2. He's never had defended his title 7 times in a row.
Hughes has the WW record for the most total days as champion - 1,577 (GSP has 1,367 and counting) but GSP has the most consecutive days - 1,227 and counting (Hughes 820).
 
Originally posted by: whatdupdoh
Date: August 29, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

Besides he doesn't have to vacate the WW belt in order to move up. He could move up and fight Silva and win or lose he could move back down and go on to surpass Hughes.
But Then again he wont do that either so that was a pointless post but my point is he could if he wanted.
 
Originally posted by: Flound
Date: August 29, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

whatdupdoh said:
Besides he doesn't have to vacate the WW belt in order to move up. He could move up and fight Silva and win or lose he could move back down and go on to surpass Hughes.
But Then again he wont do that either so that was a pointless post but my point is he could if he wanted.
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You're right, he doesn't need to vacate, but he could....
 
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon
Date: August 29, 2011 at 01:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

Anderson Silvas Video Footage is the Main Reason GSP shouldnt move up.... GSP couldnt beat Chael, Vitor, or Silva at MW.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: August 29, 2011 at 01:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

I don't want to see this fight.
I just don't think Dana White wants either his hot commidities losing in Jones or Silva. Which is why he always veers that conversation back to GSP.
That fight made sense a few years ago, but now it's not really a fight i hear MMA sites and fans wanting, just DW.
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: September 01, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/829725-anderson-silva-vs-georges-st-pierre-is-a-fight-that-should-never-happen
 
Originally posted by: keystone
Date: September 01, 2011 at 02:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

IDK what GSP is afraid of. He cant tarnish his legacy any more than he already has. Hurry up and make it happen..
 
Originally posted by: coreymb
Date: September 01, 2011 at 02:28 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-i-think-gsp-vs-anderson-silva-shouldnt-happen.41205/

keystone said:
IDK what GSP is afraid of. He cant tarnish his legacy any more than he already has. Hurry up and make it happen..
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I don't think he's afraid. The issue at hand is more complex. If Georges decides to move up in weight it will be for good. He'd be adding another 4 pounds of lean muscle mass-which is a decent amount considering he put on quite a bit ever since fighting Alves.
He's at 192-193 now, so adding on that little bit more of muscle mass would make cutting back down to 170 hard. It's not like he'd just go up to MW fight Anderson and come back down.
That'd being said. There's still wouldn't be much of a weight difference come fight night as some make it out to. Georges has stated he wants to be known as the best, he has the style to beat Silva and if he can put on that little bit more of muscle mass, I think he will eventually decide to try his luck at MW. Opponents are running out quickly for Georges..
 
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