Why is Trigg callin out Shamrock?

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bigskinny22
Date: April 15, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

Besides the obvious "Money" why do you think Trigg is calling out Shamrock? Im not aware of any bad blood between the two but the guy seems ticked at him. Last time i checked Trigg peaked when he got chocked out by Hughes back at UFC 45 and that was 5 plus yrs ago .. any thoughts Junkies?
How much [expletive] can you talk to Frank Shamrock?" Trigg asked. "He's not that good. The sport has passed him by.
"Do you really want to be seen training on Lamaze balls? Is that really what you want to do? That's what he does. Half of his techniques are done on Lamaze balls. I'm like, 'OK. That's really interesting. That's great. Who's teaching you your takedown defense?
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[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: April 15, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

I lost a lot of respect for Frank Trigg, who I genuinly like. Who is he to say such a thing. Frank Shamrock has had a much better career, and I think gave Cung Le a much better fight than Trigg could give. Who is Trigg beating these days, has he evolved his game. Even today, im taking Shamrock over Trigg every day of the week.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Atomdanger
Date: April 15, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

Maybe if they fight Frank Trigg with RNC himself again.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: April 15, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

NarlyPersianDude said:
I lost a lot of respect for Frank Trigg, who I genuinly like. Who is he to say such a thing. Frank Shamrock has had a much better career, and I think gave Cung Le a much better fight than Trigg could give.
Who is Trigg beating these days,
has he evolved his game. Even today, im taking Shamrock over Trigg every day of the week.
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Jason MIller, Misaki and Edwin Dewees all at MW.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Project86
Date: April 15, 2009 at 11:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

trigg is probably lurking atm at your posts lol

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

His last 4 fights against relevant fighter he is 2-2. Frank Trigg has nothing over Frank Shamrock. Edwin Dees is not a high level fighter. Please.
He did beat Misaki and Miller and that does count
But he also got knocked out by Robbie Lawler and submitted by a baby Carlos Condit
He has 4 straight wins but they are all subpar opponents relative to him. And his last 3 against subpar opponenents he has only managed a decision. That is a very bad sign. And decioning Danny Babcock in your most recent fight gives you no oppurtunity to talk smack to Frank Shamrock. And Shamrock fought that fight with injured ribs. Im not sure what Frank T has done recently that is impressive. And I guarantee you will see a healthier Frank Shamrock onward who will be kicking some ***.
But Frank S against Frank Trigg would be a very approprirate fight.
Everyone on the inside knows Frank Shamrock was badly injured going into that fight. People on the Underground who where around him said his ribs where bandaged up in the weeks leading up to the fight. And he is a big f---ing clue, look at the shot that put Frank down, it was not a high shot to the upper area. It was a gut shot, right around where his ribs are. Im not sure how good of a detectives you guys are but those are some telling clues.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Project86
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

i got a question who does cung le fight next frank rematch does not sound too good anymore

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

NarlyPersianDude said:
His last 4 fights against relevant fighter he is 2-2. Frank Trigg has nothing over Frank Shamrock. Edwin Dees is not a high level fighter. Please.
He did beat Misaki and Miller and that does count
But he also got knocked out by Robbie Lawler and submitted by a baby Carlos Condit
He has 4 straight wins but they are all subpar opponents relative to him. And his last 3 against subpar opponenents he has only managed a decision. That is a very bad sign. And decioning Danny Babcock in your most recent fight gives you no oppurtunity to talk smack to Frank Shamrock. And Shamrock fought that fight with injured ribs. Im not sure what Frank T has done recently that is impressive. And I guarantee you will see a healthier Frank Shamrock onward who will be kicking some ***.
But Frank S against Frank Trigg would be a very approprirate fight.
Everyone on the inside knows Frank Shamrock was badly injured going into that fight. People on the Underground who where around him said his ribs where bandaged up in the weeks leading up to the fight. And he is a big f**king clue, look at the shot that put Frank down, it was not a high shot to the upper area. It was a gut shot, right around where his ribs are. Im not sure how good of a detectives you guys are but those are some telling clues.
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Look guy, you asked who Trigg has beaten recently and I answered. For some reason you took it as I was saying he is better then Frank Shamrock. I thought about it and went to check Frank's record. When is the last relavent win Shamrock had? Try 10 years ago against Tito Ortiz.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

At least Frank is fighting an A level fighter in Nick Diaz. Not Danny ( I could insert the obvious joke) Babcock.
And Frank was very compititve against Cung Le. Cung Le is easily a pound for pound top 10 striker in mma and Frank was fighting Cung's way and hanging with him.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

btw, dude Frank is a f---ing legend. DId you see his fight with Phil Baloney. He f---ing told him in a patomine that he was going to put him to sleep, and then promptly did it. That was like the alleged Babe Ruth homer he called. And say what you will about Phil, hes a very good striker......................................................in the first round.
But really this is a perfect fight for these guys at this time.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

NarlyPersianDude said:
At least Frank is fighting an A level fighter in Nick Diaz. Not Danny ( I could insert the obvious joke) Babcock.
And Frank was very compititve against Cung Le. Cung Le is easily a pound for pound top 10 striker in mma and Frank was fighting Cung's way and hanging with him.
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You like to disrespect fighters a lot and underrate them based on people they have beaten. We all know Cung Le has nice looking striking, but what makes you think it is so great. Who the hell has he beaten? Jason Von Flue? Sammy Morgan?
Frank Trigg was fighting good fighters and has beaten them too in a weight class higher then his own. Danny isn't the only guy he has beaten, see my above post.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

NarlyPersianDude said:
btw, dude Frank is a f**king legend. DId you see his fight with Phil Baloney. He f**king told him in a patomine that he was going to put him to sleep, and then promptly did it. That was like the alleged Babe Ruth homer he called. And say what you will about Phil, hes a very good striker......................................................in the first round.
But really this is a perfect fight for these guys at this time.
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Now Phil Baroni is a quality opponent. You are a funny guy. You have a long list of fighters that you don't consider quality opponents but Phil Baroni is?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

BadassCoffee said:
NarlyPersianDude said:
At least Frank is fighting an A level fighter in Nick Diaz. Not Danny ( I could insert the obvious joke) Babcock.
And Frank was very compititve against Cung Le. Cung Le is easily a pound for pound top 10 striker in mma and Frank was fighting Cung's way and hanging with him.
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You like to disrespect fighters a lot and underrate them based on people they have beaten. We all know Cung Le has nice looking striking, but what makes you think it is so great. Who the hell has he beaten? Jason Von Flue? Sammy Morgan?
Frank Trigg was fighting good fighters and has beaten them too in a weight class higher then his own. Danny isn't the only guy he has beaten, see my above post.
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You missed the obvious humor with the Phil Baroni comment. And read carefully. I did not say Cung Le is a pound for pound top fighter. I said he is a pound for pound top striker. Here are the facts, in k1, in san shou, and in mma Cung Le is undefeated. He has never been beaten in any endeavor. And with most of his fights being in league heavy on strking and his being undeafeated its pretty obvious hes a top striker. Are you really questioning Cung Le as a striker?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:30 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

NarlyPersianDude said:
BadassCoffee said:
NarlyPersianDude said:
At least Frank is fighting an A level fighter in Nick Diaz. Not Danny ( I could insert the obvious joke) Babcock.
And Frank was very compititve against Cung Le. Cung Le is easily a pound for pound top 10 striker in mma and Frank was fighting Cung's way and hanging with him.
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You like to disrespect fighters a lot and underrate them based on people they have beaten. We all know Cung Le has nice looking striking, but what makes you think it is so great. Who the hell has he beaten? Jason Von Flue? Sammy Morgan?
Frank Trigg was fighting good fighters and has beaten them too in a weight class higher then his own. Danny isn't the only guy he has beaten, see my above post.
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You missed the obvious humor with the Phil Baroni comment. And read carefully. I did not say Cung Le is a pound for pound top fighter. I said he is a pound for pound top striker. Here are the facts, in k1, in san shou, and in mma Cung Le is undefeated. He has never been beaten in any endeavor. And with most of his fights being in league heavy on strking and his being undeafeated its pretty obvious hes a top striker. Are you really questioning Cung Le as a striker?
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No, I am questioning your knowledge of MMA, I have been since the first day you came here.
Let me some things up. Frank Shamrock is better then Trigg because he got beaten by Diaz and Cung Le, and because Trigg has only beaten Jason Miller, Misaki and Edwin Dewees(along with two other guys).
Please tell me, WTF are you trying to say??

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:35 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

Dude you have one of the worst concept of logic I have ever seen.
I really dont think you know how to read.
From Day 1 your the one who has no sense of mma from my point of view. And you lose all crediblity cause you always twist what I say.
Frank Triggs last 4 fights are against people he has no business fighting.
Frank Shamrock last fought Cung Le and recenlty fought Nick Diaz. You just dont get it. In my opinion you have an absolutely horrible sense of mma. Are you telling me Frank Shamrock would not be able to beat the last 4 guys Frank Trigg fought.
If Frank Trigg was fighting Frank Shamrock or Nick Diaz there would be a very strong chance of him losing. Hes fighting total scrubs, relative to where he is at in his career, while Frank Shamrock is fighting top fighters. Fighting the best means more.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

Project86 said:
i got a question who does cung le fight next frank rematch does not sound too good anymore
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Cung will need a warm up fight after a year off. Throw him in with Villasenor, and the Le/Lawler for Strikeforce MW belt. That would be HUGE!!!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

Dewees, Lawler, Misaki, and Jason Miller are not scrubs. I don't think Frank would be able to beat Miller, Misaki, or Lawler.
I won't get sucked in to your name calling but just to let you know, I am not the only person who feels this way. Most have just given up with trying to debate with you.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bigskinny22
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:41 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

I would like to take this moment to apologize to JAK, Showdown and the other moderators for starting a Thread that has brought out the Trolls ... my bad :?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: April 16, 2009 at 12:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

BadassCoffee said:
Dewees, Lawler, Misaki, and Jason Miller are not scrubs. I don't think Frank would be able to beat Miller, Misaki, or Lawler.
I won't get sucked in to your name calling but just to let you know, I am not the only person who feels this way. Most have just given up with trying to debate with you.
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I love how you left out he also got knocked out by Robbie Lawler and subbed by a green Carlos Condit. People like you always give a skewed arguement because they dont have s---.
My problem with you is not that we dont agree, I respect everyones opinion. My problem with you is that you twist words and that is weak
LMFAO at Edwin Dewees being a top fighter. The balla has 48 career fights, I just looked at his career record. His most notable vicotry of his career is Drew Fickett, and heres the winner, Drew Fickett has also beat him. I repeat in 48 mma fights Edwin Dewees best victory is over a guy who also beat him. Edwin Dewees is not a notable opponent to beat for a guy like Frank Trigg who was fighting guys like GSP and Misaki.
Here are Frank Triggs last 4 fights
Dewees
Vitale
Takimoto
Babcock
Forget about the ufc, would those guys even make the wec?
Here are Frank Shamrocks last 4 fights
Renzo Gracie
Nick Diaz
Cung Le
Phil Baroni
and everyone in Franks camp said the man had injured ribs going into the fight. I remember one time sparring with bruised ribs, I just could not do go through with it. I could not block very well, breathing was painful, when I moved to my right and back I was getting hardcore pains. And when I was hit on my ribs, holy s--- it hurt. I am not taking away Nick Diaz's win because of that. Every mma fighter has injuries, I am just saying a healthy Frank Shamrock next time will put on a better show. Give the man a chance.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: April 16, 2009 at 01:27 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-trigg-callin-out-shamrock.12601/

Why are you accusing me of twisting words, check your last post. I never said Dewees was a top fighter, I said he wasn't a scrub. It is a good enough win to put on your resume. He is a tough fighter and there is no denying that.
This is going no where, no one will change their minds, and this is a pointless debate. I will probally just add you to my foes and if I don't then I will just do my best to avoid any of your posts.