Will Houston Alexander be cut?

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ThatWillBeAll
Date: December 08, 2009 at 07:46 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

I can't see any other outcome than him losing his job. It seems exciting fighters are allowed to have losing records, which is great - can't have enough exciting fights.
But if you want to bring such a shitty performance into the cage, and go 0-4, I can't see any other way this ends than him getting his walking papers. I bet Dana is truely pissed off, he gave Kimbo probably one of only 5-6 fighters on the UFC roster who would just stand and bang with Kimbo, and he refuses to engage at all. I'm sure a lot of casual fans tuned in to see fireworks, and they get served that - not good.
So hopefully we'll hear of Houston once more - a main page article saying he's been cut. If I was Dana I'd have cut houston even if he had won that decision.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: December 08, 2009 at 07:58 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

after his last performance, he should be cut... he fuked the UFC, literally, he knew dana put him there to stand and bang, and probably alexander agreed on it, but it came out with a lachita game plan? houston alexander??? give me a break... Not to mention it looks extremelly ridiculous to watch him going like a mad dog before the start of the fight, and then as soon as the fight starts, the guy begins to circle around trying to taka advantage of kimbos injury, he should be cut for life. One thing is to come out with a good game plan, another thing is to delivery try to take advantage of a situation like kimbo had, he elaborated his whle game plan based on kimbos bad knee...
I just hope he doesnt end up in SF.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: fishfryer
Date: December 08, 2009 at 07:59 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

I think they'll keep him, but he probably is gonna get yelled at alot.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Moe-Biggs
Date: December 08, 2009 at 08:08 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

I fully expect to see him cut sometime in the next day or two... he's what, 0-4 in his last UFC fights? He can never been in any kind of title contention because of his lack of ground game and his only appeal was that he was an entertaining stand-and-bang fighter, but after his last fight if he's not even willing to trade then I don't see why they'd keep him. His one saving grace though is that he's willing to work for peanuts..
He'd might be a good addition to Strikeforce though, he could be an opening fight on a card against Sokoujou or another striker. Assuming he doesn't use the "circle until he's dizzy" strategy

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: gaz_berserk
Date: December 08, 2009 at 08:12 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

no i'd use him to make a easy win for Luiz Cane

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MMA-P6U6N6X
Date: December 08, 2009 at 09:09 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

50/50 shot he gets canned.
Reasons of for firing: 0-4 streak in the UFC, questionable gameplan/boring stratgey, never going to be elite...
Reasons to keep: excites the meatheads/boozers, can be signed on the cheap and provide more in return: free advirtisement with his radio show, and can provide HL's for unleashed against sub-par opponents.
If it was up to me, I'd keep him and use him on UFN's or prelims.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: cool14
Date: December 08, 2009 at 09:25 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

He will get cut for sure. The UFC gave him Kimbo so they stand and trade. Instead Houston decided to run in circles around Kimbo.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gutter
Date: December 08, 2009 at 09:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

i wouldn't be surprised either way. on one hand, he looked like Kalib Starnes.....but on the other, fans still enjoy when he's on a card because, until the other night, it usually meant an increase in the chances of a KO in at least one fight on the card.
i think he stays. they'll put him on the under card of a fight night or something. they'll keep him, but put him back on square 1 basically.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: SavageUK
Date: December 08, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

If Neer and Roshotl got cut then he defo should be

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: stweenbob
Date: December 08, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

Plz cut him and do MMA fans a favor

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ThatWillBeAll
Date: December 08, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

SavageUK said:
If Neer and Roshotl got cut then he defo should be
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Rosholt is a different thing altogether - he needs to go learn outside of UFC. He has a future I think. Houston doesn't.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: jvillain
Date: December 08, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

The only reason not to cut him is if Dana is happy that he didn't finish Kimbo when Kimbo's leg gave out and he was on the ground. .

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Leland
Date: December 08, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

Houston should have easily taken Kimbo out. The only way he will be successful is with his animal instict in round 1 going for the KO. His gameplan did not work at all with the leg kicks. If he wants to stay, he needs to work on cardio ALOT!
Also, LOL at Kimbo taking him down and trying to go for some kind of choke :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: carl258
Date: December 08, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

i would not been surprise if houston has one more fight, the kimbo fight smells so bad, it has alot of strange things, it would not be to weird to see houston getting another fight for been a good soldier for the ufc.
if this was the game plan for houston he has no game in the ufc or any other major mma promotion, local small promotions waits for him or bar brawlers

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: December 08, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

Halfway through round one I was think "Oh God Kalib Starnes 2.0". I think Houston is an all around shitty fight. Bad stand up defense, horrible ground game, horrible TD defense, horrible cardio. He's hella strong and has mad power but he moves like a rockem sockem robot. That game plan may have been good for any other fighter but Houston just isn't very good at all. To keep him in the UFC and cut guys like J-Mac is a freaking joke.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: twsjajms
Date: December 08, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

bjj_rage said:
after his last performance, he should be cut... he fuked the UFC, literally, he knew dana put him there to stand and bang, and probably alexander agreed on it, but it came out with a lachita game plan? houston alexander??? give me a break... Not to mention it looks extremelly ridiculous to watch him going like a mad dog before the start of the fight, and then as soon as the fight starts, the guy begins to circle around trying to taka advantage of kimbos injury, he should be cut for life. One thing is to come out with a good game plan, another thing is to delivery try to take advantage of a situation like kimbo had, he elaborated his whle game plan based on kimbos bad knee...
I just hope he doesnt end up in SF.
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I don't buy a second you would have been posting about how great the fight was if houston and kimbo did exactly what we all thought they would do.
I think you would probably be on here talking about how fixed the UFC is and how they probably paid Houston money to stand with Kimbo etc etc.
Alexander comes out with an actual, sound gameplan, fails in its execution because he is a sub-par fighter at best, and you slam him for not just standing there and doing what Dana White wants him to do?
Not that he would have to, but if Fedor came out and his game plan was to kick Kimbos knees out from under him you would probably be on here praising about how smart Fedor and his camp are.
I would have preferred to see Kimbo/Houston wail on each other but I don't hold it against Houston that he thought he was a better mma fighter than Kimbo and did not want to play right into the one area of fighting that Kimbo could possibly win at.
The only thing this fight really showed imo is that Houston Alexander is/was nothing more than a glorified Kimbo Slice.....
I think Kimbo could knock Sakarra and Jardine out to in a strictly stand up fight. Houstons ground game is just as bad as Kimbos. I honestly believe I probably have as much of a ground game just from watching mma for so long as Houston or Kimbo have. Kimbo can win fights against other sub-par-average fighters...just like Houston.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: December 08, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

kimboalexander said:
Alexander comes out with an actual, sound gameplan
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:lol: ... what was the gameplan....
:lol: .... running around tapping some guys knee is not a gameplan.
:lol: .... :lol:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: twsjajms
Date: December 08, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

Jak said:
kimboalexander said:
Alexander comes out with an actual, sound gameplan
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:lol: ... what was the gameplan....
:lol: .... running around tapping some guys knee is not a gameplan.
:lol: .... :lol:
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execution of the gameplan and having one are 2 different things. We've seen plenty of fighters come out and attack precived
weakness' of their opponents or to capitalize on their own strengths.
GSP game out in gsp/serra 2 with a goal to completely avoid standing with Serra. I'd argue that the gap between serras stand up and gsps stand up is actually larger than the gap between gsp/serra on the ground. Obviously the first fight was weighing on gsp's mind.
Supposing Serra managed to somehow keep the fight standing. Does that mean GSP's gameplan sucked or that he just wouldn't have executed it?
A better comparison would be Vera/Patt fight in Columbus. A fight Vera actually won via leg kicks, which was his gameplan, which vera executed.
Houston is not a very good mma fighter. Like I said before, if Couture of Vera had been fighting Kimbo and focused their attacks on the perceived weakness of Kimbos knee, they would have executed it much better and have been successful. houston is no where near the fighter those guys are and so failed at it.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheGreatAwakening
Date: December 08, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

For one thing, Houston is an undersized light heavyweight. Just because you are muscular doesn't mean you are big. He has a middleweight's frame. Allowing him to add ten pounds just meant that he wouldn't have to cut as much water weight. He wasn't one molecule bigger than usual come fight night.
As for the strategy-- yuck. I get it. He's lost a few in a row with his brawling style, he sees these other guys with their "gameplans," and here we are. While management shaping fighter tactics is a shakey path to start down, I think a rather one-sided conversation is going to take place in which the UFC indicates to Houston that he has been kept around for his violent side, not his strategic side. While some people will call this a slippery slope, I think it's simply being pragmatic as well as fair to the fighter. An aggressive Houston is worthy of Fight Night consideration, while a tactical Houston is quite literally one of the worst fighters in the profession. It's only fair to the organization and the fighter that this be explained.
Anyway, I think Houston's next fight should be at 195 or 185 against Drew McFedries. As one-dimensional as Drew is he's significantly better than Kevin Ferguson at bringing his power to bear. Ferguson obviously needs his opponent to engage him. McFedries will happily wade in throwing bombs, and if Houston wants to circle he'll get stiffened up.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: twsjajms
Date: December 08, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/will-houston-alexander-be-cut.20101/

TheGreatAwakening said:
For one thing, Houston is an undersized light heavyweight. Just because you are muscular doesn't mean you are big. He has a middleweight's frame. Allowing him to add ten pounds just meant that he wouldn't have to cut as much water weight. He wasn't one molecule bigger than usual come fight night.
As for the strategy-- yuck. I get it. He's lost a few in a row with his brawling style, he sees these other guys with their "gameplans," and here we are. While management shaping fighter tactics is a shakey path to start down, I think a rather one-sided conversation is going to take place in which the UFC indicates to Houston that he has been kept around for his violent side, not his strategic side. While some people will call this a slippery slope, I think it's simply being pragmatic as well as fair to the fighter. An aggressive Houston is worthy of Fight Night consideration, while a tactical Houston is quite literally one of the worst fighters in the profession. It's only fair to the organization and the fighter that this be explained.
Anyway, I think Houston's next fight should be at 195 or 185 against Drew McFedries. As one-dimensional as Drew is he's significantly better than Kevin Ferguson at bringing his power to bear. Ferguson obviously needs his opponent to engage him. McFedries will happily wade in throwing bombs, and if Houston wants to circle he'll get stiffened up.
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I agree with all of this. While I personally find it a bit hypocritcal of some of the above posters to outright attack the idea of Houston having a gameplan. I also think it is in Houston Alexanders best interest to do what he has always done. Go out their and try to smash people. I personally think he would/could smash Kimbo btw.
That being said, as a fighter I imagine it is tough to self examine oneself and come to the conclusion most of us have - He is at BEST an "average" fighter and the only thing that keeps him relevant is his explosive punching power. He is thinking about long-term. He is probably thinking about trying to get a complete game and hopefully one day compete for a title. That is unrealistic. His meal-ticket for him and his family is for him to go out, put on the most exciting fight he can, hopefully get some fotn or ko bonus' and basically grab as much money as he can for being super exciting before ultimatly he is cut for having a terrible record.