You stay classy, Matt Hughes
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@mmablaster, there is a springf black bear season in BC. If you are from out of country you have to hire a guide to hunt and the license and tags costs significanlty more. The guide tags are also limited. Out of country hunters that cannot take meat home leave it with the guide and he will typically give it away to local families (Native elders are a common recipient). If you just kill and leave and get caught you get huge fines adn can lose your license (I htin kthis happened to Lesnar), but the majority of guides (and hunters in BC) are responsible harvesters. The bullk of the probelms actually come form people that are legally unregulated. Also, al lharvest numbers ar ebased on stock surlpus, so if there is low animals numebrs in a a region you cannt buy tags for them (this happenedd last year with sockeye salmon stocks up north, all commercial and recreational fishing was shut down due to low stick numbers)
Bear meat can be good, especially if you find an oat field bear or somehting eating a lot fo vegetation itn eh spring (spring bears are also leaner meat), but they tend to taste like what they are eating (dump bears and salmon runs bears are gross tasting). Ther is also regulations in BC taht require full use of harvested bears specifically due to problems with bladder and paw harvesting.
If you shut down hunting of bears you jsut have to get the Conservation Officers (CO) to destroy more whne they wander into towns and become habitualized/problem bears. As I explained to a treeplanter once after having to destroy a bear that was not leaving camp "I can destroy him now, or I can destroy him after he mauls someone; I am willing to wait". The worst part si that most probelm bears (in camps or urban areas) area result of people not managing their garbage.
There was oen that was destroyed because it kept coming in to a locals yard for fruit and bird feeder food. The homeowner said it was horrible to do becaue she didn't mind and she moved ther efrom the city becasue she 'liked the wildlife'. She did not seem concerned with putting neighborhood children in danger by attracting opportunistic predators into the area and making htem confortable with people presence.
A simialr incident in Kitimat (coastal town) had a a mother bear teaching her cubs to stalk people and knock grocery bags out of theirs hands, and then eating the groceries after people had run away.
Shawnd1901 said:
last time i checked you have to undergo a background check when you buy from any licensed dealer. i hate to tell you but there is no reputable licensed dealer out there who will sell you any type of fire arm without a background check. what was passed in Austraila worked because they really dont have the same issues we do a lot of our gun violence is attributed to
gang violence
and if you notice when these shooting do happen most occur in a "gun free zone" but anyway not gonna derail this thread anymore with this
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This may or may not counter my own argument from before, I'm not entirely sure, and I know you said you were done because you don't want to open this can of worms any further, but when you say "gangs," are you by any chance referring to these guys?:
http://aattp.org/open-carry-texas-intimidates-woman-by-posting-phone-number-on-youtube-video/
Open Carry Texas Intimidates Woman By Posting Phone Number on YouTube (Video)
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Open Carry Texas really is a group of the most vile, detestable people in the country. Purporting to simply be freedumb-loving, non-threatening gun advocates, the group has somehow managed to be incredibly threatening.
These dangerous Teabillies threatened four Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America members–all women–inside a Dallas restaurant in November. The group pulled up, forty strong, pulled their Second Amendment Sticks from their trunks, and
waited for the women to exit the Blue Mesa Grill
–that’s 10 armed morons to every one member that was inside.
This isn't threatening... right?
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Unfortunately, this sort of thing is the norm for the group. In July of last year, despite rifles not being allowed in the Capitol, the
group attempted to enter anyway
in a show of force. A member of the group’s gun was confiscated inside a Gamestop when he chose to enter and
intimidate people who simply wanted to shop for video games
in January of 2014. The group has also
exploited local girl scout troops in an effort
to further their cause.
It should come as no surprise that these “nonthreatening” individuals who, nonetheless, cause people to feel threatened would up the game on intimidation.
When a woman reported the group–once again, armed to the teeth–standing on an overpass and endangering the safety of the public, member Brett Sanders submitted a public information request to obtain the 911 call. He then posted the audio, which included the woman’s name and phone number, on YouTube. Of course, since he is not intending to intimidate anyone he was sure to throw up text prominently displaying the number so that his fellow vehement Second Amendmenters may call her. You know, in case anyone wants to threaten her.
Commenters on the video offered a mixed response, with many blaming the victim for putting herself in danger. Many, though, denounced the group’s attempt to intimidate her directly, and any others who might stand up to them indirectly.
If their actions are “nonthreatening,” we would hate to see what they consider “threatening.” Oh yeah, attempting to restrict their ability to intimidate people. That’s right.
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Sapper said:
You really don't have any idea what you are talking about.... Sure some are asshats... Hughes is one for sure.... But you don't understand hunting, probably live in an area where the only wildlife you see is a s--- bird digging in trash.... Where I live Bear's can be problems... Does that mean we shot all of them? Know, but we do allow a certain amount to be killed every year. I am sure the situations and regulations are close in BC because that is pretty much like where I live. Hughes paid a lot of money for that hunt, and I bet it will be the only time he gets one. Here you can get one every five years.
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Amen brotha
<--- Canadian
In Canada we have relatively low gun violence, and the thing that the anti-gun advocates use to prop up the numbers is suicides, which last I remember accounted for over 80% of firearms deaths. Then you add in accidents, then add in actual crime and the number is pretty small. Responsibel firearms owners in Canada are ina constant struggle for theri priveleges. Part of this is licensing required to buy firearms. This is a safety course, and a background check and then you have a license to aquire firearms. You do not need to do this everytime and for the majority of firearms you do not even have to disclose your inventory. Every five years you will haev to renew your license.
It alwasy seems to me that while the US has very lax gun control, it often has lax gun safety, adn in the modern world people are not growing up familiar with firearms, so this creates issues with a)safe use and storage, and b) fear of the unkknown that anti-gun groups prey on. And to be clear, at any point that I may refer to gun-control advocates, I really mean anti-gun groups, because their end goal is eliminate firearms of any sort from the public, which brings me to my next point.
Australia. When you talk abotu how effective gun control measures in Asutralia were you need to understand that they instituted licensing, then a mandatory registration, and then confiscated all firearms. Which must mean they have NO gun violence becasue you are not legally allowed to own firearms. But how does Australia have gun violence at all you ask? Since there is no legal way to get firearms then no one must have firearms? People that are commiting crimes do not care about those laws. One coudl argue that gun control is not about public safety very easily and win every argument if the oppoennet s of firearms awnership were actually concerned about facts adn willing to deal in good faith.
Back to Canada. If you took all the firearms deaths and injuries and narrowed it down to legitimate crime, and then checked that against the instances of those crimes being committed by legally licensed owners and firearms, you would have an almost zero rate of gun violence (basically that a--hole in Moncton and the copycats being the only ones in recent years, and taht was assuming those were legal firearms to boot)
Here handguns are also more heavily regulated and things liek fully automatic rifles are only legally owned by a tiny fraction of the population that has old grandfathered licenses.
It sounds to me like gorups liek the 'Open carry advocates' or whomever they are, are part of the problem as much the far left anti-gun advocates and they are not really helping their own cause, but to be fair waht is represented above is the only hting I know about them. Part of the reason for their existence may be a reaction to the anti-gun groups. If everyone could be reasonable and learn to coexist theses incidents would not occur; and if wishes were fishes then we would all be eating steak.
edit - I thought I stated it celarly above, but in case I missed it, some things in this post are my opinion.
I like to hunt, I use what I kill, I sell the elk racks (no trophies). I would go on a bear hunt for the experience. I know some mountain guys who would take the meat as well.
ive always felt hughes was a d1ck too
I own some guns too, but I dont carrythem with me, when I go hicking/camping I keep a gun in my bag. The sad thing is, most people that carry guns think there fvucking charles bronson. I went fishing recently and a guy from texas came up to me to ask me what I was doing. He made it a point to pull his jacket back to show me he was "holding" I talked to him friendly and explained my day and my fish I caught, but at the time im thinking " are you serious bro?" That sh1it aint necissary.
I shot a bunch of squirrels one summer cause they were eating the veggies in my garden. Kill about 12 of them. The next summer my neighbor asked why all the squirrels weren't going in my yard but roamed like crazy in hers. I mentioned what happened and she paid 10$ a head. made 90$.
Good summer.
Shawnd1901 said:
i open carry here in pa but honestly the responses i get are people asking about the laws i keep a print out copy in my wallet im not doing it to draw attention i think people who open carry rifles are f---ing stupid and just looking to stand out
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Agreed, im sure people ask you about the laws just to see if your a ignorant. I dont get why people think gun holders are idiots. I just dont like when some holders (like the one I encountered) use them to intimadate.
kungfu_ghetto said:
Agreed, im sure people ask you about the laws just to see if your a ignorant. I dont get why people think gun holders are idiots.
I just dont like when some holders (like the one I encountered) use them to intimadate.
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That's kind of what a non-gun user like me is concerned about. Wayne LaPierre said after one of the many tragedies we had in the 2012-13 period, "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." I can understand wanting to carry a simple pistol around for protection, but if you're packing as much heat as the Open Carry Texas people from my video earlier, how the f--- am I supposed to know what side you're on? The answer is I don't know what side you're on, and I'd rather not stick around to find out. I don't want to caught in the crossfire of a shootout between someone with an AK-47, and an off-duty cop because of a misunderstanding.
That's why I like the idea of having some form of gun control in place. Because I don't want to see a bunch of nuts like the Open Carry Texas members getting their way in other states. The world can be a scary place, I get it, but while having that kind of heavy fire power may make those nuts feel safer, it just makes the world a scarier place for me.