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There's a theory that thus far there have been 3 reincarnational iterations of Jesus Christ: John the Baptist, Jesus Christ, and Paul.Who is they?
According to John:
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Jesus never said 'if you don't worship me you're condemned'.... he said we were all born condemned, through original sin, and that the only way to reverse that is to following his teachings.
There's a difference there.
In order to come to that conclusion you have to look at a couple of individual sentences from the BIble and willfully ignore others that better explain what Jesus was actually getting at.
Yes, according to Mark, Jesus said:
“Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; whoever does not believe will be condemned.”
However, according to Matthew, Jesus also said:
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
So, no... you can't kill a bunch of people and then on your deathbed say "my bad... I've decided that I now believe in you Lord" and you're in just like that. Luke confirmed this:
"Asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he [Jesus] said in reply, 'The coming of the kingdom of God cannot be observed, and no one will announce, 'Look, here it is,' or 'There it is.’ For behold, the kingdom of God is within you."
Thomas narrowed it down further and also explained that it's not about overt worship externally, it's about sincerity internally:
“Jesus said, If your leaders say to you, ‘Behold, the kingdom is in the sky,’ then the birds in the sky will get there before you. If they say to you, ‘It is in the sea,’ then the fish will get there before you. Rather, the kingdom is inside you and outside you. When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and embody poverty” (Saying 3).
That's essentially where I'm at with it as well.
For what it's worth, John said that Jesus said that's ok
Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
According to the Seth material in Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul (and related discussions in The Seth Material), there were three personalities of one Christ entity whose lives became historically blended/confused into the composite figure known as Christ.
These are:
- John the Baptist (the forerunner).
- The historical Jesus (the personality most stories of Christ refer to).
- Paul (Saul of Tarsus) (who came after and worked to implement the ideas in physical/organizational terms).
Seth also refers to a third/future personality (sometimes called the “third personality of Christ” or linked to the prophesied “Second Coming”). This is not a past historical figure but one yet to appear (in Seth’s framing, emerging in a timeframe leading toward roughly 2075). It will carry characteristics of all three prior personalities, form a new psychic entity/gestalt, initiate a new religious drama (not Christian in conventional terms), and not signal the end of the world. It is described as forming particularly around the unsatisfied aspects of Paul’s personality.
In short: the past “iterations” or physical manifestations of the Christ entity that merged in history are John the Baptist, Jesus, and Paul. The additional one Seth discusses is the future personality associated with the Second Coming idea. Note that this is Seth’s esoteric/channeled account (via Jane Roberts), not historical or biblical scholarship.

