A second womens division in the UFC?

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Spud
Date: July 28, 2013 at 01:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/a-second-womens-division-in-the-ufc.56745/

MoJoJo said:
What's your point? there's barely quality outside 145 in the mens and nearly zero quality outside 125 of women's division.
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Huh, the 145 division is awesome.
My point is that HW has historically been a weak division, there's no need to split it into 2 different divisions. You'd be making a shallow division into 2 shallower divisions. Makes no sense.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: July 28, 2013 at 01:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/a-second-womens-division-in-the-ufc.56745/

there's a "first" womens division in the ufc?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: osubuckeye4
Date: July 29, 2013 at 01:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/a-second-womens-division-in-the-ufc.56745/

I'm almost always against more divisons.
I think it's one of the main things that ruined boxing... there just too many champs and it becomes next to impossible to follow it all. Plus you get all these situations where guys run from one weight class with a dominant champ, just so they can be champ at another weight class. I don't like it.
I completely understand that you need to have multiple divisions (it wouldn't make any sense to have 250 pounders fighting against 125 pounders), but I think that there need to be reasonable gaps between them.
We're already getting to the point where the gaps are too narrow. Look at all the guys who go from 145 to 155 or from 125 to 135 every time a dominant champ loses, just so they can get back into the mix.
If the UFC is going to have additional womens classes, I'd like to see a bigger gap than 10 pounds. If they get to the point where they can add a 115 or 155 division (they are not close to being there yet), I'd like to see that more than a 125 or 145 (seeing as how the 135 is already established).
That's just my .02 though.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Spidy
Date: July 29, 2013 at 02:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/a-second-womens-division-in-the-ufc.56745/

osubuckeye4 said:
I'm almost always against more divisons.
I think it's one of the main things that ruined boxing... there just too many champs and it becomes next to impossible to follow it all. Plus you get all these situations where guys run from one weight class with a dominant champ, just so they can be champ at another weight class. I don't like it.
I completely understand that you need to have multiple divisions (it wouldn't make any sense to have 250 pounders fighting against 125 pounders), but I think that there need to be reasonable gaps between them.
We're already getting to the point where the gaps are too narrow. Look at all the guys who go from 145 to 155 or from 125 to 135 every time a dominant champ loses, just so they can get back into the mix.
If the UFC is going to have additional womens classes, I'd like to see a bigger gap than 10 pounds. If they get to the point where they can add a 115 or 155 division (they are not close to being there yet), I'd like to see that more than a 125 or 145 (seeing as how the 135 is already established).
That's just my .02 though.
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Promoters and overall greed ruined boxing
Good point on division jumping, doubt it changes though
Funny how 10lb jump till LW then 15lb till HW. Probably should at least be a 15 lb jump across the board till HW
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Weight for men, women are 10 lb across the board. 15 may be more difficult? I ain't sure what difference in cutting weight as far as men vs women

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: osubuckeye4
Date: July 29, 2013 at 02:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/a-second-womens-division-in-the-ufc.56745/

Spidy said:
Promoters and overall greed ruined boxing
Good point on division jumping, doubt it changes though
Funny how 10lb jump till LW then 15lb till HW. Probably should at least be a 15 lb jump across the board till HW
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Weight for men, women are 10 lb across the board. 15 may be more difficult? I ain't sure what difference in cutting weight as far as men vs women
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No doubt that promoters did everything they could to ruin boxing.
I do maintain though that if there were 7-9 weight classes (as opposed to 17), boxing would have remained a lot more popular.
It just got too difficult to keep up with everything, and yes, there was way too much manipulation with the weight classes/champions by the promoters.
Add to that the fact that there are 3-4 recognized "major" belts in each wight class, and it didn't help them at all.
I'm perfectly fine with the UFC continuing along the way they are. I think they are teetering on the edge of having too many weight classes, as I think 8 divisons are plenty. If they ever get to the point where they split the HW's, or add a super HW... I won't be a huge fan of it, but I could understand it.
Now, if they do what boxing did, and in a decade have balooned up to 17 different weight classes, I'll probably just find a new sport to watch. Well, that, or more likely, just follow football more closely and stop paying as much attention to MMA as I currently do.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Neonep
Date: July 29, 2013 at 03:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/a-second-womens-division-in-the-ufc.56745/

Spud said:
I'd rather the UFC got some depth in their flyweight & womens bantamweight divisions before adding another though.
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Them adding more depth to women's BW helps the case of 125. Let's just say over the course of 3 years or so they add roughly 20 women to that division on top of what they already have. Now, I'm sure a bunch of those women will be undersized and just want the opportunity to fight in the UFC as we've already seen with Sexton & Andrade, then they open up a 125 division, sign some new ladies and couple that with all the women dropping down.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: mmablaster
Date: July 29, 2013 at 03:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/a-second-womens-division-in-the-ufc.56745/

osubuckeye4 said:
I'm almost always against more divisons.
I think it's one of the main things that ruined boxing... there just too many champs and it becomes next to impossible to follow it all. Plus you get all these situations where guys run from one weight class with a dominant champ, just so they can be champ at another weight class. I don't like it.
I completely understand that you need to have multiple divisions (it wouldn't make any sense to have 250 pounders fighting against 125 pounders), but I think that there need to be reasonable gaps between them.
We're already getting to the point where the gaps are too narrow. Look at all the guys who go from 145 to 155 or from 125 to 135 every time a dominant champ loses, just so they can get back into the mix.
If the UFC is going to have additional womens classes, I'd like to see a bigger gap than 10 pounds. If they get to the point where they can add a 115 or 155 division (they are not close to being there yet), I'd like to see that more than a 125 or 145 (seeing as how the 135 is already established).
That's just my .02 though.
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I've been hammering at that for awhile. If they want to expand the women's divisions, go 120, 135, 150. Then eventually you can have a 105 division if need be.
I don't like it that guys will go from 155 to 145 to 135 just trying to use a weight cut to their advantage, or trying to find a division they might be able to win. I'd re-organize men's at 120, 132, 145, 160, 175, 190, 210, 270 or something similar.