Atencio:"Dana Acts Like A Fighter, So Why Doesn't He Fight?"
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NarlyPersianDude said:
Tom is right. No promoter talks or acts like him. He does act like a fighter, excpet he does not actually fight. Tom does.
Tom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dana
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I'm sure the fighters on the main card agree with you. Attencio is running Affliction like he's going for a government bailout.
Tom is just talkin trash to get things heated up. At the end of the day while Dana may not be a fighter he spanks Tom in every which way at
HIS JOB
which is as a fight promoter. Tom should just go back to selling t-shirts and leave the real promoting to people who know how to do it. I compare Affliction to Elite-XC in the fact that they have 1 fighter that people want to see(Fedor and Kimbo respectivly.) If they didn't have Fedor knowone would care about Affliction and that is the truth and everyone including Tom knows it. It's about exposier and Affliction gets none.
aslongastheyfear said:
Tom is just talkin trash to get things heated up. At the end of the day while Dana may not be a fighter he spanks Tom in every which way at
HIS JOB
which is as a fight promoter. Tom should just go back to selling t-shirts and leave the real promoting to people who know how to do it. I compare Affliction to Elite-XC in the fact that they have 1 fighter that people want to see(Fedor and Kimbo respectivly.) If they didn't have Fedor knowone would care about Affliction and that is the truth and everyone including Tom knows it. It's about exposier and Affliction gets none.
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two different targets,
Elite with kimbo=casual fan, even worst, casual viewer
Afflicion with Fedor=Hardcore Fan.
bjj_rage said:
aslongastheyfear said:
Tom is just talkin trash to get things heated up. At the end of the day while Dana may not be a fighter he spanks Tom in every which way at
HIS JOB
which is as a fight promoter. Tom should just go back to selling t-shirts and leave the real promoting to people who know how to do it. I compare Affliction to Elite-XC in the fact that they have 1 fighter that people want to see(Fedor and Kimbo respectivly.) If they didn't have Fedor knowone would care about Affliction and that is the truth and everyone including Tom knows it. It's about exposier and Affliction gets none.
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two different targets,
Elite with kimbo=casual fan, even worst, casual viewer
Afflicion with Fedor=Hardcore Fan.
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Either way, it's trying to build a promotion off of a single fighter. Of course, even hardcore fans will watch Elite XC, they just won't be cheering for Kimbo. Both promotions could put on a good show with good fighters that a hardcore fan would appreciate, but EliteXC actually tried to draw in casual viewers. Make a fan out of 10% of those and you've done a lot of good for the future of MMA. Affliction doesn't make new fans, period. They have some of the best fighters, primarily Fedor, and the draw off of the popularity of MMA as a whole
Roclawzi said:
bjj_rage said:
aslongastheyfear said:
Tom is just talkin trash to get things heated up. At the end of the day while Dana may not be a fighter he spanks Tom in every which way at
HIS JOB
which is as a fight promoter. Tom should just go back to selling t-shirts and leave the real promoting to people who know how to do it. I compare Affliction to Elite-XC in the fact that they have 1 fighter that people want to see(Fedor and Kimbo respectivly.) If they didn't have Fedor knowone would care about Affliction and that is the truth and everyone including Tom knows it. It's about exposier and Affliction gets none.
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two different targets,
Elite with kimbo=casual fan, even worst, casual viewer
Afflicion with Fedor=Hardcore Fan.
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Either way, it's trying to build a promotion off of a single fighter. Of course, even hardcore fans will watch Elite XC, they just won't be cheering for Kimbo. Both promotions could put on a good show with good fighters that a hardcore fan would appreciate, but EliteXC actually tried to draw in casual viewers. Make a fan out of 10% of those and you've done a lot of good for the future of MMA. Affliction doesn't make new fans, period. They have some of the best fighters, primarily Fedor, and the draw off of the popularity of MMA as a whole
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elite had cbs, do you think any hardcore fan woulde've pay to watch any elite card wich had kimbo on the main event? Even to say that Elite is doing any better for the sport than what atancio is doing is ridiculous, hell, Elite tried to pay seth to stand with kimbo? And who told you that affliction doesnt make new fans? may be his main target is the hardcore fan, but with time it could expand, and it should, other ways, why would atencio get in the promoting business? to get 100 k or 200 k ppv at much?
bjj_rage said:
Roclawzi said:
Either way, it's trying to build a promotion off of a single fighter. Of course, even hardcore fans will watch Elite XC, they just won't be cheering for Kimbo. Both promotions could put on a good show with good fighters that a hardcore fan would appreciate, but EliteXC actually tried to draw in casual viewers. Make a fan out of 10% of those and you've done a lot of good for the future of MMA. Affliction doesn't make new fans, period. They have some of the best fighters, primarily Fedor, and the draw off of the popularity of MMA as a whole
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elite had cbs, do you think any hardcore fan woulde've pay to watch any elite card wich had kimbo on the main event? Even to say that Elite is doing any better for the sport than what atancio is doing is ridiculous, hell, Elite tried to pay seth to stand with kimbo? And who told you that affliction doesnt make new fans? may be his main target is the hardcore fan, but with time it could expand, and it should, other ways, why would atencio get in the promoting business? to get 100 k or 200 k ppv at much?
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Make no mistake, I have no love for EliteXC or their business practices. But people tend to ignore new things without compelling reasons to check them out. Sadly, Kimbo was one for a lot of people. He was an viral sensation on the internet and got some mainstream coverage. And Affliction does not have a lot to draw new fans in. They have "That guy that kicked everyone's *** in Pride" and "That guy that Couture beat out of UFC" and "That guy that got beat up by that guy who Couture beat out of the UFC". Mainstream attention is hard to get, but UFC does it with the reality show and their fighters in major films and signing Brock Lesnar. Affliction doesn't. If you know MMA you 100% want to see their cards. If you don't know MMA very well, you don't care at all.
I agree with Brick.
Let's look at the facts... Atencio is about to fight his second professional fight. It's not like he's some battle veteran who has taken on all comers. It'd be like me running in two 5K then saying the founder of New Balance is a hypocrite because he isn't running in it or any upcoming races (not sure if this is true or not, just an example and maybe it's a bad one... hypotethical is the word I'm looking for here).
Plus, Dana has boxed in the past... it's not like he is some pencil necked wuss who has never been punched before but gets in fighters faces about performances.
All this is going to do is make people think that Atencio took a match just so he could run his mouth about Dana White. (who knows, maybe he did?)
Brick said:
A ridiculous statement. He's a promoter, not a fighter, and doesn't pretend to be. I had appreciated how Atencio had mostly been taking the high road and not responding to White's constant childish attacks, looks like he slipped a bit.
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+1
The first thing I did when I read the thread title was -----> :roll:
Not only is Dana 10x the promotor the UFC's merchandising sales and trademark agreements make Affliction's clothing revenues look pretty insignificant as well.
Oh and Dana did actually try and get into the Ring not all that long ago but Tito backed down! I guess if Tom doesn't challenge Tito to a boxing match he's a p---- now to right? :shock:
Talk like this coming from Tom really is nothing more than a dying animal making one last futile attack.