Originally posted by: cool14 Date: May 05, 2009 at 04:16 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
Originally posted by: Tai_Mai_Shu Date: May 05, 2009 at 04:18 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
dtrain21 said:
Probably cuz he's too busy managing the UFC. When you have more then two shows a year it makes you kind of busy.
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This is funny because it's true! :lol:
Originally posted by: D253 Date: May 05, 2009 at 04:53 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
phoenix-mma said:
Tom Atencio 5'8" 165lbs vs Dana White 6'1" 210lbs....
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No worse than Fedor vs Aoki ..............
Make it happen!! :lol:
Originally posted by: Shock-G Date: May 05, 2009 at 09:14 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
Originally posted by: kam300 Date: May 05, 2009 at 09:19 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
NarlyPersianDude said:
Tom is right. No promoter talks or acts like him. He does act like a fighter, excpet he does not actually fight. Tom does.
Pleeeeease for God's sakes. He is who he is and people pay attention to him. Look at Vince McMahon or Don King. They are voicetrous, loud obnoxious and you hear them even when you don't want to. Dana White is the bystandard that screams FIRE! when it's really a rape (Tito VS Shamrock, 1,2,3). He is good at what he does, just embrace it or turn tune him out and enjoy the fights.
Tom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dana
true.
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Originally posted by: Roclawzi Date: May 05, 2009 at 09:23 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
kam300 said:
NarlyPersianDude said:
Tom is right. No promoter talks or acts like him. He does act like a fighter, excpet he does not actually fight. Tom does.
Tom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dana
true.
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Pleeeeease for God's sakes. He is who he is and people pay attention to him. Look at Vince McMahon or Don King. They are voicetrous, loud obnoxious and you hear them even when you don't want to. Dana White is the bystandard that screams FIRE! when it's really a r*** (Tito VS Shamrock, 1,2,3). He is good at what he does, just embrace it or turn tune him out and enjoy the fights.
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voicetrous? Really?
Originally posted by: dublindevil83 Date: May 05, 2009 at 09:26 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
NarlyPersianDude said:
Tom is right. No promoter talks or acts like him. He does act like a fighter, excpet he does not actually fight. Tom does.
Tom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dana
true.
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Umm Dana was a fighter, boxer to be exact. Dana's wallet is about 10x fatter and has 0 need to fight. Also please remember that Tito was the one who backed out of their boxing match.
Dana>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tom
Originally posted by: Chug_Life Date: May 06, 2009 at 12:23 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
If you just listen to the interview you can tell Dana gets under Tom Atencio's skin. Thats all Dana is trying to do when he refers to him as the "T-shirt Guy".
Originally posted by: ronkiz21 Date: May 06, 2009 at 12:54 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
Originally posted by: Xavier_Cage Date: May 06, 2009 at 05:17 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
It is amazing how much Tom gets hated on here. This is the first time he has ever said anything about Dana and he gets torn apart for it, Yet Dana Rips on him, and his promotion and apparently that is just LOLZ!!! hillarious. I have never heard Tom rip another promotion. More importantly, he has never ripped another fighter. It makes me cringe when Dana rips on fighters. It just reeks of a guy who will talk s--- to someone while standing behind an army.
Originally posted by: Brick Date: May 06, 2009 at 08:36 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
Xavier_Cage said:
It is amazing how much Tom gets hated on here. This is the first time he has ever said anything about Dana and he gets torn apart for it, Yet Dana Rips on him, and his promotion and apparently that is just LOLZ!!! hillarious. I have never heard Tom rip another promotion. More importantly, he has never ripped another fighter. It makes me cringe when Dana rips on fighters. It just reeks of a guy who will talk s**t to someone while standing behind an army.
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Well, that's kind of the point. Dana does it all the time, everyone knows he is classless when he opens his mouth, it is hardly news anymore and is expected. Atencio has had ample opportunities to fire back (often justifiably) but has taken the higher road. He finally does so, and he choses a silly and immature issue -- that is what no one expected out of him because he has been so classy so far, and why it generates so much more discussion than the usual Dana White idiotic rant.
Originally posted by: PayaamElixir Date: May 06, 2009 at 10:10 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
If Tom is so classy as you say he is, and as I believe he is. Why dont we not hold him to some unreal standard and give him a pass.
And give him support.
Dana brought the ufc to where it is today, give him that. But its people like Tom who have the ability to take the sport to a higher level. His business model is not solid, but give him time.
Dana is not about furthening mma at all, hes only about the ufc. Tom I think would further the sport.
Atencio is a great guy.
Originally posted by: keystone Date: May 06, 2009 at 10:40 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
Fieldmarshal said:
NarlyPersianDude said:
Dana is not about furthening mma at all, hes only about the ufc. Tom I think would further the sport.
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Please enlighten us on this thought about a t-shirt guy, jumping on the MMA bandwagon piggy backing after the success of UFC and Strikeforce doing anything to further the sport.
His business model is not solid? No..s**t..it sucks. He has shown he knows nothing about the industry and this dude is supposed to further the sport?... :lol: :lol:
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haha, you mean like in one of his interviews where he couldnt remember names of fighters on the card. That was awesome.
Originally posted by: Roclawzi Date: May 06, 2009 at 11:28 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
Fieldmarshal said:
NarlyPersianDude said:
Dana is not about furthening mma at all, hes only about the ufc. Tom I think would further the sport.
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Please enlighten us on this thought about a t-shirt guy, jumping on the MMA bandwagon piggy backing after the success of UFC and Strikeforce doing anything to further the sport.
His business model is not solid? No..s**t..it sucks. He has shown he knows nothing about the industry and this dude is supposed to further the sport?... :lol: :lol:
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His business model is quite simple. Just envision a restaurant with a big sign out front "NOW SERVING FEDORBURGERS!". Everyone who eats burgers knows about the mythical Fedorburger and are desperate to try one. So, of course, there's a line out the door of customers. The menu reads "FEDORBURGER 44.95" on the top line and the rest of the menu is blurry, disjointed, poorly spelled and stained. Eventually, no one comes except those who talked up the Fedorburger so much that they refuse to eat anything else because they don't want to be seen enjoying something other than a Fedorburger.
Fortunately, the Fedorburger is yummy good and it makes his business model work for now, but eventually, he's going to have to sell something else.
Originally posted by: Ace23 Date: May 06, 2009 at 12:44 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
Originally posted by: veritas Date: May 06, 2009 at 03:15 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
NarlyPersianDude said:
If Tom is so classy as you say he is, and as I believe he is. Why dont we not hold him to some unreal standard and give him a pass.
And give him support.
Dana brought the ufc to where it is today, give him that. But its people like Tom who have the ability to take the sport to a higher level. His business model is not solid, but give him time.
Dana is not about furthening mma at all, hes only about the ufc. Tom I think would further the sport.
Atencio is a great guy.
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dana runs a business. its called the ufc not mma. tom is not trying to further the sport either. he is trying not to lose millions more than he has already lost. tom is a salesman like everyone in the business, he says everything he can to get viewers to watch his product. he has zero casual fans. there who carry this business not the hardcore fans, and that is all he says, and doesnt even have all of them. bottom line is he will be out on business by aug. if not earlier. the ufc is the biggest organization in mma, its like the UFL trying to compete with the NFL. it will not happen and beacuse it does not happen it dose not mean it is bad for the sport. every sport have different leagues with better competition as you climb the chain. ufc is at the top. like it or not its the way it is.
Originally posted by: Chug_Life Date: May 06, 2009 at 03:40 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
NarlyPersianDude said:
Dana is not about furthening mma at all, hes only about the ufc. Tom I think would further the sport.
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yeah we never see dana trying to get mma regulated or anything right? :?
Trust, Tom Atencio is about selling clothes...not promoting mma. He promotes mma because in the long run it helps him sell clothes. he has said on a number of occasions that if he was never banned from the UFC they would of never started their own promotion.
Originally posted by: mistat94 Date: May 06, 2009 at 08:30 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
sounds like the t-shirt guy is getting desperate
BTW Mr. Atencio, Dana White doesn't have to fight (lol that rhymes)... he's too busy building an mma empire
Originally posted by: Reako Date: May 07, 2009 at 12:29 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
Boy there sure are lots of people desperately trying to get attention in the MMA world.
Roy Jones wants to fight Silva or Diaz in MMA and now Atencio wants to fight Dana? Do you hear that? "glub glub glub" Its the sound of Affliction fighting drowning. I guess this is the only way Atencio can think of to stay in teh news.
Originally posted by: Reako Date: May 07, 2009 at 12:30 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/atencio-dana-acts-like-a-fighter-so-why-doesnt-he-fight.13192/
bjj_rage said:
aslongastheyfear said:
Tom is just talkin trash to get things heated up. At the end of the day while Dana may not be a fighter he spanks Tom in every which way at
HIS JOB
which is as a fight promoter. Tom should just go back to selling t-shirts and leave the real promoting to people who know how to do it. I compare Affliction to Elite-XC in the fact that they have 1 fighter that people want to see(Fedor and Kimbo respectivly.) If they didn't have Fedor knowone would care about Affliction and that is the truth and everyone including Tom knows it. It's about exposier and Affliction gets none.
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two different targets,
Elite with kimbo=casual fan, even worst, casual viewer
Afflicion with Fedor=Hardcore Fan.
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Agreed.
Which is why if EXC had done a PPV theyd have gotten 10x the buys as affliction I , 2 and the yet to come 3 combined.