Didnt Hominick just miss weight?

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: April 29, 2011 at 07:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

veritas said:
TheVileOne said:
There is no weight allowance for a title fight.
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Correct. But all we can hear in the video is rogan say 145.25. He could have misspoke and not corrected himself. As the reports have indicated.
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No, the report says the scale said 145.25, but the commission thought vibration from the music and the underwear would make up for that.
The scale said 145.25.
Hominick missed weight according to the scale, which I believe according to the rules is how the weight is to be determined.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MMA-P6U6N6X
Date: April 29, 2011 at 08:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

BB you pot stirring mutha.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: April 29, 2011 at 08:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

MMA-P6U6N6X said:
BB you pot stirring mutha.
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I just think its a terrible precident for a commission to start, especially this early in their process.
And for them to just act like its no big deal.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MMA-P6U6N6X
Date: April 29, 2011 at 08:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

Isn't this same commission that handle the MFC29? Where the doctor took a min and half to get inside the cage.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: April 29, 2011 at 08:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

MMA-P6U6N6X said:
Isn't this same commission that handle the MFC29? Where the doctor took a min and half to get inside the cage.
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Yeah

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ChaosGod
Date: April 29, 2011 at 08:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

Jeez i can see if it was a pound or more over weight but guys come on it is a quarter of a pound. an hour in the sauna or working out after the first weigh in and he would have made it. Hell if he took off his clothes he would have made it chill the f--- out. Who pissed in your cheerios this morning with complaining about a quarter of a pound?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: April 29, 2011 at 08:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

ChaosGod said:
Jeez i can see if it was a pound or more over weight but guys come on it is a quarter of a pound. an hour in the sauna or working out after the first weigh in and he would have made it. Hell if he took off his clothes he would have made it chill the f**k out. Who pissed in your cheerios this morning with complaining about a quarter of a pound?
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Forgive me for wanting them to follow the rules.
Well I just let in 1 extra punch.
Well he was just .5 pounds over.
Well he was almost not defending himself.
I only allowed one to many fence grabs.
Rules are in place for a reason, and when you start finding exceptions, no matter how small it sets a very dangerous precident.
According to the rules, Mark Hominick did not make weight but is being allowed to fight for the title.
This is an issue imo, and a terrible job by the commission up the.
Again, big picture, no big deal, but the fact people wanna fight you on it when its pretty much black and white is kinda nuts.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: veritas
Date: April 29, 2011 at 08:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

buffaloblue said:
ChaosGod said:
Jeez i can see if it was a pound or more over weight but guys come on it is a quarter of a pound. an hour in the sauna or working out after the first weigh in and he would have made it. Hell if he took off his clothes he would have made it chill the f**k out. Who pissed in your cheerios this morning with complaining about a quarter of a pound?
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Forgive me for wanting them to follow the rules.
Well I just let in 1 extra punch.
Well he was just .5 pounds over.
Well he was almost not defending himself.
I only allowed one to many fence grabs.
Rules are in place for a reason, and when you start finding exceptions, no matter how small it sets a very dangerous precident.
According to the rules, Mark Hominick did not make weight but is being allowed to fight for the title.
This is an issue imo, and a terrible job by the commission up the.
Again, big picture, no big deal, but the fact people wanna fight you on it when its pretty much black and white is kinda nuts.
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Completely agree. Can't argue with that. What I read was the commission told rogan the weight was actually 145 and rogan never announced it. If he was over weight he was over weight. But I thought it was a mis announcement. What I read about the clothes and scale allowance I thought was speculation as to what could of happened. Not what actually did happen.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: April 29, 2011 at 09:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

veritas said:
Completely agree. Can't argue with that. What I read was the commission told rogan the weight was actually 145 and rogan never announced it. If he was over weight he was over weight. But I thought it was a mis announcement. What I read about the clothes and scale allowance I thought was speculation as to what could of happened. Not what actually did happen.
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The commission told joe 145.25, joe announced it, Hominick had stepped off, then apparently commission changed it to 145.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: FamilyGuy
Date: April 29, 2011 at 09:41 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

buffaloblue said:
veritas said:
Completely agree. Can't argue with that. What I read was the commission told rogan the weight was actually 145 and rogan never announced it. If he was over weight he was over weight. But I thought it was a mis announcement. What I read about the clothes and scale allowance I thought was speculation as to what could of happened. Not what actually did happen.
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The commission told joe 145.25, joe announced it, Hominick had stepped off, then apparently commission changed it to 145.
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Wow I just weighed myself on my digital scale in my shorts and hitch, and then took them
Off and tried it nude. There was .5 lbs difference. Bb you are gonna kick up a stink over that? Maybe this event should have been held in vegas where that quarter lb would have delayed everything to the point where we had to wait 5 minutes for him to strip naked for you. Lmao. And it's not like we wouldn't still see the fight either way, just would have been a % of marks purse going to Aldo. I think Aldo already makes significantly more than enough more than mark in this match to care. Dude I love you, but it's not like he just got found positive for roids or was even a lb over. It was the weight of a quarter pounder's patty. Get over it IMO.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: feijaofan
Date: April 29, 2011 at 09:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

FamilyGuy said:
Dude I love you
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drunk posting?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: FamilyGuy
Date: April 29, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

Not at all. Though I have done that in the past! Lol. I truly have nothing but respect for buffalo blue, but honestly, when was the last time we even saw a weigh in as accurate as the .25 lb mark? It never happens! Half a lb I get it but .25?! We are picking knits here. Where do y draw the line? Before we know it, you yanks are gonna have to switch to metric so you can be as accurate as the rest of the world. Nobody wants that!!!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: mma_guru333
Date: April 30, 2011 at 02:36 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

I'm in agreement with BB, in reality, its not really a big deal, seeing as if he takes off his shorts, he makes weight anyway. But its a dangerous precedent and a poor job by the AC to allow that type of thing to happen imo.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Glixe
Date: April 30, 2011 at 06:34 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

I guess this has been sorted out, but one more comment on it from Sports Yahoo.
Source ::
http://is.gd/PebOlE
TORONTO – A procedural error led to controversy over the weigh-in of featherweight title contender Mark Hominick the day before UFC’s biggest live event in history.
Hominick weighed in at 145.25 pounds according to the scale reading at the Ricoh Coliseum, which was the initial public announcement for the championship fight against Jose Aldo Jr., but it was then listed as being 145 pounds.
While the difference sounds minuscule, 145 is the exact limit for a featherweight title fight. If a fighter goes over the mark, the match is supposed to become non-title.
The weight was recorded at 145 pounds on the button and the Ontario-based challenger was approved and confirmed for his title shot against champion Jose Aldo Jr. as part of UFC 129 at the Rogers Centre in Toronto.
The reality is Hominick would have likely made weight, given that he was wearing his shorts while weighing in. And he seemed ready to dispense with them and go back on the scale to weigh in again, which would have alleviated any controversy.
Instead, the Ontario Athletic Commission official on site waved him off. Nobody would speak on the record about the controversy. One explanation given was the potential that the loud music that was playing when he stepped on the scale could have caused the stage to shake enough to slightly affect the weight.
However, earlier, when lightweight Ben Henderson weighed in a half-pound over the limit for his fight, they ceased playing music in the arena and had weighed him again with no difference.
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The rest of the article is pretty good. It covers a lot of information that happened today with fans and Dana. A brief comment on 5 round non-title fights -- White said they were thinking about it for the Brock Lesnar vs. Junior Dos Santos fight, but he said it would be hard to do since the contract is already signed.
Also discusses the fan who asked White if he could be the belt around the winner of the main event. White didn't like it at first, but (I think) he has agreed to let him do it and also invited the fan to sit ringside with him.
Lots of little sound bites.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: April 30, 2011 at 09:24 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

FamilyGuy said:
Not at all. Though I have done that in the past! Lol. I truly have nothing but respect for buffalo blue, but honestly, when was the last time we even saw a weigh in as accurate as the .25 lb mark? It never happens! Half a lb I get it but .25?! We are picking knits here. Where do y draw the line? Before we know it, you yanks are gonna have to switch to metric so you can be as accurate as the rest of the world. Nobody wants that!!!
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MAIN CARD (pay-per-view)
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Michael Bisping (185.2 lbs.) vs. Jorge Rivera (184.8 lbs.)
Dennis Siver (156.6 lbs.) vs. George Sotiropoulos (155.8 lbs.)
Chris Lytle (169.8 lbs.) vs. Brian Ebersole (169.8 lbs.)
Chris Camozzi (185.2 lbs.) vs. Kyle Noke (183.9 lbs.)
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Alexander Gustafsson (205 lbs.) vs. James Te Huna (204.6 lbs.)
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Jason Reinhardt (145.2 lbs.) vs. Tiequan Zhang (145.6 lbs.)
Mark Hunt (262.2 lbs.) vs. Chris Tuchscherer (260.9 lbs.)
Maciej Jewtuszko (154.4 lbs.) vs. Curt Warburton (155.8 lbs.)

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: April 30, 2011 at 09:26 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

FamilyGuy said:
Not at all. Though I have done that in the past! Lol. I truly have nothing but respect for buffalo blue, but honestly, when was the last time we even saw a weigh in as accurate as the .25 lb mark? It never happens! Half a lb I get it but .25?! We are picking knits here. Where do y draw the line? Before we know it, you yanks are gonna have to switch to metric so you can be as accurate as the rest of the world. Nobody wants that!!!
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We are not knit picking here man. I am not after Mark and I want it to be a title fight, but the reality is that the incorrect process took place here.
The commission took a short cut. Do you remember how long at MFC it took a doctor to get in the ring.
This commission is new and should be under a microscope.
I believe this is a dangerous precedent to set. The rules clearly state you must weigh in at 145. The reality is the only weight the scale said for Mark Hominick was 145.25.
According to the rules, and the scale, he missed weight.
The correct thing would have been for him to reweigh without his underwear.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: April 30, 2011 at 10:18 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

One explanation given was the potential that the loud music that was playing when he stepped on the scale could have caused the stage to shake enough to slightly affect the weight.
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I agree with Blue. You can't ASSUME it would have been a non-issue. However, when the commission expressed concern that the loud music was shaking the scale & turned off the music for Ben Henderson it actually made NO DIFFERENCE. He still came in 1.5 lbs over. If Ben had to strip down in attempt to make weight then Hominick should have had to weigh in EXACTLY at 145 considering it's a title fight.
edit: Aldo better finish this fight (which he will) because he does NOT want this going to the judges.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: April 30, 2011 at 10:24 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

What if you got a quarter yard to the goal line in football, do they give you the touchdown?
What about a quarter inch.
If a football ref came out and said, well he got it a quarter inch from the goal line but I felt he was right there so I gave it to him, the reaction would be insane.
The commission should never take factors into control, they should go by the scale. Basically is what happend is the scale said one thing and the commission overruled the scale. Thats just insane to me.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BDrizz
Date: April 30, 2011 at 10:28 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

Hominick was actually announced as 145.25 pounds, but the Ontatio Athletic Commission ultimately decided the challenger was actually on weight. An OAC official initially told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that Hominick was allowed to compete in a title fight, which does no factor in the customary one-pound allowance, because he was still wearing his fight shorts at just one-quarter pound over the contracted weight, and the house music was rattling the scale.
The same official later declared he had actually called out the weight a second time as 145 pounds, but that event emcee Joe Rogan neglected to announce the update.
do any of you actually read the home page articles? this was written and pretty much explains this whole issue away....
EDIT: Source http://mmajunkie.com/news/23422/ufc-129-live-and-official-weigh-in-results.mma

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: JonnyF
Date: April 30, 2011 at 10:45 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/didnt-hominick-just-miss-weight.38244/

The guy weighing the fighters is a jackass. He didn't yell a second time. Everytime he talked you could hear his whiny voice. As soon as he yelled 145.25, the UFC graphic popped up saying 145 which I thought was weird.
I've never seen or heard of a guy missing weight and the commission just slashing off the extra weight.