Originally posted by: redstar Date: April 30, 2013 at 11:00 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
If proven/caught by referee, take a point.
If it happens multiple times or is malicious, disqualification/fined.
I know it might seem like an apples/oranges comparison but in the NHL you are penalized for high-sticking, even accidentally. It seems the only way to assign responsibility to the offender/make the person focus.
Originally posted by: Contender Date: April 30, 2013 at 11:03 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
FullItalian said:
Deduct points from those who leave their hands open...wasn't this discussed already today?
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Dunno, was it? If it was then I missed it. Happy for a mod to merge threads.
Originally posted by: FullItalian Date: April 30, 2013 at 11:08 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
Originally posted by: severedhand Date: April 30, 2013 at 11:09 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
Originally posted by: renjr84 Date: April 30, 2013 at 11:12 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
Originally posted by: Contender Date: April 30, 2013 at 11:18 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
Sedulous said:
They need gloves that cover all of the fingers and keep the main four fingers in one sleeve.
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Y U HAYT GRAPPLE!!?!?!1!?
Originally posted by: phoenix-mma Date: May 01, 2013 at 12:01 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
Originally posted by: LighthouseKeeper Date: May 01, 2013 at 01:56 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
Originally posted by: C-Me-No-More Date: May 01, 2013 at 07:09 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
redstar said:
If proven/caught by referee, take a point.
If it happens multiple times or is malicious, disqualification/fined.
I know it might seem like an apples/oranges comparison but in the NHL you are penalized for high-sticking, even accidentally. It seems the only way to assign responsibility to the offender/make the person focus.
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High sticking ?
Jesus in Hurley its get the fuk up and get on with it
Originally posted by: smartigan Date: May 01, 2013 at 08:08 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
Originally posted by: Billy Emmons Date: May 01, 2013 at 08:48 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
Contender said:
Y U HAYT GRAPPLE!!?!?!1!?
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No matter what i think grappling is going to take a small shot in this situation if they fix it by the gloves, but if they fix it by point deduction fans and fighters will pay the price all in all
Originally posted by: Contender Date: May 01, 2013 at 08:52 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
Billy Emmons said:
No matter what i think grappling is going to take a small shot in this situation if they fix it by the gloves, but if they fix it by point deduction fans and fighters will pay the price all in all
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How so?
I think a big part of the problem is that fighters train open-handed. It's a very bad practice IMO. They should be training with closed-fists. Even if it's just for their own safety. One of the very first things I learned when striking is never to fight with an open hand because you risk breaking your own damn thumb and fingers if it's not closed properly when you land.
Plus, I reckon a lot of fighters do it on purpose and get away with it because they can just say they didn't mean it.
Originally posted by: Billy Emmons Date: May 01, 2013 at 08:54 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
Contender said:
How so?
I think a big part of the problem is that fighters train open-handed. It's a very bad practice IMO. They should be training with closed-fists. Even if it's just for their own safety. One of the very first things I learned when striking is never to fight with an open hand because you risk breaking your own damn thumb and fingers if it's not closed properly when you land.
Plus, I reckon a lot of fighters do it on purpose and get away with it because they can just say they didn't mean it.
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I see where you are coming from. But when parrying and finding distance sometimes in the heat of things, your not really paying attention, the fighters themselves wont do it, so they are going to have to make rules
Originally posted by: NicoSuave Date: May 01, 2013 at 09:11 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
Tapout sold this pair of gloves that were like a cross between boxing gloves and MMA gloves. The fingers would stick out, but there was a boxing glove-style layer of padding that went over the tops of the fingers. Maybe convert to those, or take up the design of the Pride gloves?
Contender said:
Y U HAYT GRAPPLE!!?!?!1!?
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They could still grapple. As long as they have mobility with their thumb and limited or no padding on the palm of their hands it shouldn't be a problem.
I wish I was more of artist/designer because I have a couple of glove ideas that might actually work.
Originally posted by: Contender Date: May 01, 2013 at 09:48 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/eye-pokes-glove-change-3-point-stance.54240/
Sedulous said:
They could still grapple. As long as they have mobility with their thumb and limited or no padding on the palm of their hands it shouldn't be a problem.
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No way. You'd lose way too much grip and dexterity in a mitt.
Contender said:
Personally I don't see how a new type of glove would change anything. It seems as if any glove that could protect the eyes from the fingers would severely impact grappling ability. Then again, I'm not a fashion designer, or fighter.
Maybe a close-handed rule?
I don't know the answer but it sure is f---ing annoying and I do wish something would be done about it. Any suggestions?
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It would not be hard to come up with a glove design that greatly reduces eye pokes without impacting the ability to grapple. Even a small amount of covering on the finger tips will make any eye poke that occurs, far less likely to end a fight. Padding would make the finger tips larger and less likely to insert into the eye socket. If they do get into the socket, the tip would be more blunted and their wouldn't be a finger nail to do extra damage. I'm sure someone has already come up with a better glove that doesn't impact grappling that the UFC is considering right now.
Contender said:
No way. You'd lose way too much grip and dexterity in a mitt.
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I don't think you're really using your imagination. If all you see in your mind's eye is a mitt, your not seeing what I'm seeing.
