Fitch isn't a Draw, but 127 sells out in record time?
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Well Fitch might be a very small draw but Bj is a big one.
Let's also add that the card isn't that bad for the Australian fan.
You have Sotiropoulos, Kyle Noke, Te-Huna and Perosh that are from Australia.
Add the fact that you have fighters like Pearson, Fisher, Gustafsson, Condit, Lyttle, Siver, Bisping, Rivera, Fitch and Penn fighting... Wich makes this event a stacked one.
ResoluteProtector said:
Broken said:
They come to Australia once a year and we would watch anyone.
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That still doesn't explain why it sold out faster than the previous Australia card....
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So we ignore the countless other variables and explanations (UFC's growing popularity in Australia, the lucrative secondary ticket market last time they were here, the other fighters on the card, etc...) and conclude that Fitch is the reason for the sell-out, debunking the theory that he isn't a good draw?
In related news, thousands showed up for the football game Sunday even though it was raining, disproving the theory that people like sunshine more than rain.
mightymice said:
One of the main dings against Jon Fitch when it comes to getting a rematch with GSP is that it isn't marketable for the UFC. However, the upcoming card in Australia sold out in record time with Fitch vs. Penn headlining. This card doesn't even have a lot of big names to sell the card outside of the headliner.
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i bet you if the UFC came to Guatemala (my country) it would be a sell out even if they put nick lentz, gray maynard and jon fitch on the card
maybe they all came to see BJ, lose.
bj picks up a lucky ko in the first swing of the night and everyone says he's back.
how quickly we forget about little frankie edgar shutting him out twice.
fitch is twice the size and twice the wrestler that frankie is.
this will be a hula display of beatdownmanship.
imagine...having tickets to BJ Penns last fight. priceless!
TheGreatAwakening said:
ResoluteProtector said:
Broken said:
They come to Australia once a year and we would watch anyone.
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That still doesn't explain why it sold out faster than the previous Australia card....
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So we ignore the countless other variables and explanations (UFC's growing popularity in Australia, the lucrative secondary ticket market last time they were here, the other fighters on the card, etc...) and conclude that Fitch is the reason for the sell-out, debunking the theory that he isn't a good draw?
In related news, thousands showed up for the football game Sunday even though it was raining, disproving the theory that people like sunshine more than rain.
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exactly but let the few jon fitch fans think that Jon is the only reason why australians fans buy the tickets, it wasnt because they only got few ufc events oportunitys, that UFC brand is growing by a minute, that Penn is the main event, that they have like 3 local figthers on the event, no lets put all that behind and said that JON FITCH IS THE REASON FOR THE SELL-OUT :lol: :lol: :lol:
armbarandgrill said:
maybe they all came to see BJ, lose.
bj picks up a lucky ko in the first swing of the night and everyone says he's back.
how quickly we forget about little frankie edgar shutting him out twice.
fitch is twice the size and twice the wrestler that frankie is.
this will be a hula display of beatdownmanship.
imagine...having tickets to BJ Penns last fight. priceless!
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And Fitch is more then twice as slow as Edgar, which was BJ's problem with Edgar, not his power, or wrestling ability. Fitch has no power and can't set up his takedowns with his striking like GSP can, so I don't see Fitch having nearly the success GSP did getting BJ down. Plus BJ's striking is going to be MUCH faster then Fitch's.
Obviously we will have to wait for the PPV numbers to really have any idea, however my point wasn't really that Fitch is the reason this event sold out quickly. One of the main arguments against Fitch's rematch is that the UFC can't market it. A few of us have said "BS, the UFC can market whatever the hell it wants, even with Fitch in the headliner" and I think this card is evidence of that. This is a great card for Australia, and while BJ is huge, he isn't even as big as GSP. Fitch certainly doesn't have as many fans as other fighters that are clamoring to watch his fights, but the number of people that realistically stick to their guns and 'will never watch a Fitch fight again, much less a card he headlines' is not as large as the vocal crowd makes it out to be.
mightymice said:
Obviously we will have to wait for the PPV numbers to really have any idea, however my point wasn't really that Fitch is the reason this event sold out quickly. One of the main arguments against Fitch's rematch is that the UFC can't market it. A few of us have said "BS, the UFC can market whatever the hell it wants, even with Fitch in the headliner" and I think this card is evidence of that. This is a great card for Australia, and while BJ is huge, he isn't even as big as GSP. Fitch certainly doesn't have as many fans as other fighters that are clamoring to watch his fights, but the number of people that realistically stick to their guns and 'will never watch a Fitch fight again, much less a card he headlines' is not as large as the vocal crowd makes it out to be.
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i will give you that, definity if for some reason Fitch gets another shot at the title definity the UFC would need to make that in another place like canada or some country that they never visit so people buy the tickets and put that on free tv because the PPV will be very low for sure but the attendance will score high
now on the subject if he deserve it that is not the subject of this thread so thats is another story
I think it's mostly due to it being Australia, but I also think BJ v FItch is one of those scenarios where the whole of the fight is greater than the sum of its parts. Even if you don't like Fitch, BJ v Fitch is a compelling match up that a lot of people want to see. BJ v Fitch would do better than a card that had them both fighting two other people (unless the other people were huge draws, obviously).
TheGreatAwakening said:
ResoluteProtector said:
Broken said:
They come to Australia once a year and we would watch anyone.
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That still doesn't explain why it sold out faster than the previous Australia card....
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So we ignore the countless other variables and explanations (UFC's growing popularity in Australia, the lucrative secondary ticket market last time they were here, the other fighters on the card, etc...) and conclude that Fitch is the reason for the sell-out, debunking the theory that he isn't a good draw?
In related news, thousands showed up for the football game Sunday even though it was raining, disproving the theory that people like sunshine more than rain.
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Never said that. But just like it is an assumption that Fitch isn't the reason, it could just as easily and fairly be assumed that Fitch isn't as bad of a draw as people lead on.
Not too difficult to figure out why this sold out. Put this exact card in Vegas and half the seats would be comped. I mean, what will 127 be competing with in the general vicinity in Australia compared to ANY Saturday night in Vegas??
Like has already been said, PPV will tell the story.
of course fitch can sell a fight. this is his second run at the title. he dominated anyone not named GSP.
just because some people can't accept that wrestling is part of mma doesnt mean the majority of fans feel that way.
this is being promoted as an MMA match and that's what the people who bought tickets are expecting to see, not just some street-brawl style slug-fest.
funny how just about every champ used wrestling to get where he is, yet some tards still complain about LnP and wall-n-stall. it must suck to be so wrapped up in the wrong sport! :lol:
WAR FITCH!
This should be the end of BJ (fingers crossed)
since when do ticket sales of of first time UFC locations have anything to do with the fight card. I mean seriously the first time the UFC goes to a place it sells out almost instantly. The first Australia card sold out before a single fight was announced. Columbus sold out within a few hours the first time, the second time it didn't even sell out and the second card was better then the first in many respects.
You had to know all this was coming.
Nobody gives Fitch any credit, its soley on the location.
So you guys would watch anyone?? Anyone huh? Is that why you need big names for the only 2 times they have been there?
UFC 110:
Cain vs Big Nog
Wandy vs Bisping
Stevenson vs Sotiropolous
Jardine vs Bader
Cro Cop vs Rothwell(turned out to be Perosh)
Bonnar vs Soszynski
Lytle vs Foster
UFC 127:
Penn vs Fitch
Bisping vs Rivera
Sotiropolous vs Siver
Condit vs Lytle
I mean these are so pretty big names and exciting fighters. Stop acting as if Australia would watch a fight headlined by Bonnar vs Pokrajac
LitesOut13 said:
You had to know all this was coming.
Nobody gives Fitch any credit, its soley on the location.
So you guys would watch anyone?? Anyone huh? Is that why you need big names for the only 2 times they have been there?
UFC 110:
Cain vs Big Nog
Wandy vs Bisping
Stevenson vs Sotiropolous
Jardine vs Bader
Cro Cop vs Rothwell(turned out to be Perosh)
Bonnar vs Soszynski
Lytle vs Foster
UFC 127:
Penn vs Fitch
Bisping vs Rivera
Sotiropolous vs Siver
Condit vs Lytle
I mean these are so pretty big names and exciting fighters. Stop acting as if Australia would watch a fight headlined by Bonnar vs Pokrajac
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only problem with your post - 110 was sold out before a single fight was announced.