Five Ways For Jon Fitch to Get Another Title Shot

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: August 17, 2011 at 07:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

(Sometimes winning and heart aren’t enough. Just ask Vince McMahon.)
During an appearance on Steve Cofield and Kevin Iole’s ESPNRadio1100/98.9 FM’s “The MMA Insiders” show on Friday, UFC president Dana White made it clear that in spite of the fact that Jon Fitch has not lost since dropping a decision to Georges St-Pierre three years ago, the American Kickboxing Academy captain won’t likely get a title shot anytime soon because the fight is a tough one to sell.
“Everybody is saying ‘Jon Fitch is one of the best in the world, when is he fighting GSP?’ The problem is he went in and fought GSP and got destroyed,” White explained like it happened a month ago. “I mean GSP completely dominated him from the first round to the fifth round and beat him up and dropped him and everything else…”
It’s funny, Kenny Florian keeps getting title shots and the UFC has been trying to put together a rematch between Lyoto Machida and Rashad Evans despite how the last ones went.
But we digress.
Instead of scratching our heads over the UFC’s double standards when it comes to earning a title shot, we’ve come up with five suggestions for Fitch to get what he has coming to him since winning doesn’t seem to be enough.
5. Adopt a Crazy Hairstyle
Platinum afro-wearing Josh Koscheck was beaten soundly by GSP the first time around and lost a fight in between their rematch in December. Dan Hardy didn’t beat any of the UFC’s top 5 welterweights, yet the mohawked Brit got a shot at the title. Shall we go on? OK. Two words: Hermes Franca.
4. Get Caught Using PEDs
Thiago Alves got busted for diuretics and got a title shot a few fights after his return. Sean Sherk got suspended for steroids and after returning from his suspension was rewarded with a shot at retaining his belt against BJ Penn. Vitor Belfort was suspended for testing positive for steroids and was signed by the UFC and got a title shot after only one fight in the promotion at a different weight. And we can’t forget Chael Sonnen, who if he beats Brian Stann in his first fight back from a PED suspension will get another crack at Anderson Silva, even though the last time they fought he did so on TRT without permission by CSAC.
3. Adopt an Accent
It may be a coincidence, but most of the number one contenders who have fought for UFC gold and several of the fighters the past few years who many feel were undeserving of their title shots happened to speak with accents. As far as the undeserving ones go, we aren’t going to mention who they are, but their names rhyme with Patrick Cote, Thales Leites and Dan Hardy.
2. Go on TUF
One way to cut through the politics of securing a UFC title shot is to spend six weeks in the TUF house. Ask Joe Stevenson, Patrick Cote, Matt Serra, Travis Lutter, Rashad Evans, Diego Sanchez and Forrest Griffin if they regret the decision to be on the show. Kenny Florian seems to get title shots every few fights, even when he drops down a division, which had he not been on TUF likely wouldn’t be the case. Dana takes care of his TUF boys.
1. Become an a--hole
Turning heel paid off for Brock Lesnar, Josh Koscheck, Chael Sonnen and Nick Diaz. It can’t hurt for Fitch to try becoming a douchebag since being polite and sportsmanlike isn’t working for him. Maybe Kos can give him some tips, since he seems to have the act down pat. If he really wants to ensure he gets a crack at the belt, he may want to consider partaking in each of the suggestions we’ve given him to improve his chances of success.
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[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MoJoJo
Date: August 17, 2011 at 07:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

3 ways Fitch gets another title shot.
1) Beats another 2 top 5 opponents.
2) Diaz beats GSP
3) GSP moves up

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: darcebandit
Date: August 17, 2011 at 07:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

HAHAHAHAHA great thread

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: smfowns4
Date: August 17, 2011 at 07:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

This is unnecessary.
There's one way he could get the title shot. When he gets the takedown, attempt to transition, to land big blows, look for submissions or at least accept a fight against anyone the UFC puts against you.
Remember Jon, you need the UFC more then the UFC needs you.
But this thread was pretty f---ing hilarious.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: roostproof
Date: August 17, 2011 at 07:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

LOL!!!!! Awsome read!!!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: sourpuss
Date: August 17, 2011 at 07:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

Great story. Pretty much sums up just how stupid this is.
Legitimacy. Sport needs legitimacy.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheGlyde
Date: August 17, 2011 at 08:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

I don't think its a big conspiracy, I think alot comes down to timing.
If he had beaten (or gotten the decision) against BJ I believe he would have had a 2nd shot by now.
If Nick Diaz had been beaten by Paul Daley and Fitch hadn't been injured, I believe there wouldn't have been another legit challenger right now, and he would have got a 2nd shot.
After his loss to GSP at UFC 100, Fitch hadn't really beaten anyone of consequence until Alves at UFC 117, so you can't really say he deserved the shot over Hardy at UFC 111, as that was too soon and he hadn't done much at that time post UFC 100 (I know, Hardy hadn't really either, but, he hadn't just lost to GSP already either).
By the time Fitch beat Alves at 117, Koscheck was already locked into TUF and a title shot after his wins against Daley & Johnson, and IIRC Koscheck had the most wins in UFC history without ever getting a title shot.
I don't think you can really gripe about Shields being given a title shot over Fitch at 129 either... So, really, we're back to the start, if he had beaten BJ, Diaz had lost and/or he hadn't gotten injured, then he would have gotten a 2nd shot by now.
But, all that did happen, and now, instead of fighting someone like Rick Story, Carlos Condit or Jake Ellenberger, he's going to try and wait and be handed a shot, or fight a lesser guy, and that WILL work against him.
Fitch drew with BJ, so if BJ beats Condit and Fitch beats Johny Hendricks, then I'm sorry, but BJ would then deserve the shot over Fitch... So if Fitch thinks wins over Hendricks caliber guys should mean he is gifted a shot when there are others in the division winning against better quality opposition, some of whom have't already had title shots, and Fitch won't fight them, then I think he and his fans will continue to be disappointed.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: darcebandit
Date: August 17, 2011 at 08:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

He fought GSP at UFC 87, a year before UFC 100. He fought Paulo Thiago as the UFC 100 MAIN EVENT
Even Brock was on before him, thats how much of a draw Fitch is and that's the second time he has done that. Brock the UFC poster boy playing second fiddle to Fitch, shows the confidence the UFC has in him :lol:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: CF3
Date: August 17, 2011 at 08:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

6. Finish a fight

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: LitesOutPHX
Date: August 17, 2011 at 08:39 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

smfowns4 said:
This is unnecessary.
There's one way he could get the title shot. When he gets the takedown, attempt to transition, to land big blows, look for submissions or at least accept a fight against anyone the UFC puts against you.
Remember Jon, you need the UFC more then the UFC needs you.
But this thread was pretty f**king hilarious.
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:roll:
Mounted and had the back of Thiago Alves. Had the back of Paulo Thiago multiple times. Second most strikes landed in UFC history.
Took a fight with Pierce on short notice when Alves got hurt. Took a fight with Saunders on short notice when Alves got hurt. Took a fight with Penn when he was told he would get a title shot after beating Alves.....
Anything you think he doesnt do?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Contender
Date: August 17, 2011 at 09:41 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

CF3 said:
6. Finish a fight
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Yeup.
Until he does this, he's not a contender, he's just a pretender.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: August 17, 2011 at 09:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

smfowns4 said:
There's one way he could get the title shot. When he gets the takedown, attempt to transition, to land big blows, look for submissions or at least accept a fight against anyone the UFC puts against you.
Remember Jon, you need the UFC more then the UFC needs you.
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+1

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheGlyde
Date: August 17, 2011 at 09:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

darcebandit said:
He fought GSP at UFC 87, a year before UFC 100. He fought Paulo Thiago as the UFC 100 MAIN EVENT
Even Brock was on before him, thats how much of a draw Fitch is and that's the second time he has done that. Brock the UFC poster boy playing second fiddle to Fitch, shows the confidence the UFC has in him :lol:
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Yeah sorry got my numbers mixed up, but, just adds to the list really, he shouldn't have been considered in front of Penn for a title shot at UFC 94, nor Alves at UFC 100 as he hadn't done much post GSP loss by that time.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: darcebandit
Date: August 17, 2011 at 09:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

TheGlyde said:
darcebandit said:
He fought GSP at UFC 87, a year before UFC 100. He fought Paulo Thiago as the UFC 100 MAIN EVENT
Even Brock was on before him, thats how much of a draw Fitch is and that's the second time he has done that. Brock the UFC poster boy playing second fiddle to Fitch, shows the confidence the UFC has in him :lol:
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Yeah sorry got my numbers mixed up, but, just adds to the list really, he shouldn't have been considered in front of Penn for a title shot at UFC 94, nor Alves at UFC 100 as he hadn't done much post GSP loss by that time.
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I agree 100%, you have brought a breathe of fresh sense to this thread. Timing was off, he also drew with Penn but it doesn't escape the fact that he should still be signed for a Penn rematch. He should be fighting Penn/Condit/Shields, one of them 3. He needs top competition.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: smfowns4
Date: August 17, 2011 at 10:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

LitesOut13 said:
smfowns4 said:
This is unnecessary.
There's one way he could get the title shot. When he gets the takedown, attempt to transition, to land big blows, look for submissions or at least accept a fight against anyone the UFC puts against you.
Remember Jon, you need the UFC more then the UFC needs you.
But this thread was pretty f**king hilarious.
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:roll:
Mounted and had the back of Thiago Alves. Had the back of Paulo Thiago multiple times. Second most strikes landed in UFC history.
Took a fight with Pierce on short notice when Alves got hurt. Took a fight with Saunders on short notice when Alves got hurt. Took a fight with Penn when he was told he would get a title shot after beating Alves.....
Anything you think he doesnt do?
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Daaaaamn, he did all that and still couldn't finish? Thanks for proving my point in general by trying to counter a sub-argument.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: August 17, 2011 at 10:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

smfowns4 said:
This is unnecessary.
There's one way he could get the title shot. When he gets the takedown, attempt to transition, to land big blows, look for submissions or at least accept a fight against anyone the UFC puts against you.
Remember Jon, you need the UFC more then the UFC needs you.
But this thread was pretty f**king hilarious.
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In just his last five fights, Fitch is credited with 11 transitions to a better position.
In the fight versus Penn alone, Fitch connected on 47/72
significant
strikes for a 65% connect rate, SMASHING Penns 41% connect rate on significant strikes.
Fitch also went on to attempt a submission significant enough to warrant comment in the Penn fight.
As for fighting anyone the UFC puts in front of him, I think the homie LitesOut has educated you on that one.
Oh, and the "sub-argument" BS ain't flying here homie. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Good day sir.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: smfowns4
Date: August 17, 2011 at 10:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

ResoluteProtector said:
In just his last five fights, Fitch is credited with 11 transitions to a better position.
In the fight versus Penn alone, Fitch connected on 47/72
significant
strikes for a 65% connect rate, SMASHING Penns 41% connect rate on significant strikes.
Fitch also went on to attempt a submission significant enough to warrant comment in the Penn fight.
As for fighting anyone the UFC puts in front of him, I think the homie LitesOut has educated you on that one.
Oh, and the "sub-argument" BS ain't flying here homie. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Good day sir.
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You seem to forget that 11 transitions from guard to half-guard doesn't do you much. The fact that you had to go to FightMetric to see how many "significant strikes" he landed baffles me. Do you even know what they consider significant strikes? They consider anything significant strikes.
The fact that he could land "47 significant strikes" and not finish BJ Penn itself is sad. So is the fact that he got out-wrestled by little BJ.
He needs to fight whoever the UFC is putting in front of him because it's going to end up working against him and he's not going to get a title shot. Please tell me how declining a fight the boss tells you to do will bring you anywhere closer to a title shot?
How are you going to tell me that my point doesn't apply? That's stupid. Get out of here "homie". 209, out!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Contender
Date: August 17, 2011 at 10:25 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

Wait... 11 transitions in 5 fights? And you're claiming that as evidence of him being active? That's two transitions every fifteen minutes. Whoa!
Thanks for proving how boring he is.
And 72 'significant' strikes. Lol. Fitch isn't only the king of decisions, he's the master of pitter-patter.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: August 17, 2011 at 10:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

smfowns4 said:
ResoluteProtector said:
In just his last five fights, Fitch is credited with 11 transitions to a better position.
In the fight versus Penn alone, Fitch connected on 47/72
significant
strikes for a 65% connect rate, SMASHING Penns 41% connect rate on significant strikes.
Fitch also went on to attempt a submission significant enough to warrant comment in the Penn fight.
As for fighting anyone the UFC puts in front of him, I think the homie LitesOut has educated you on that one.
Oh, and the "sub-argument" BS ain't flying here homie. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Good day sir.
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You seem to forget that 11 transitions from guard to half-guard doesn't do you much. The fact that you had to go to FightMetric to see how many "significant strikes" he landed baffles me. Do you even know what they consider significant strikes? They consider anything significant strikes.
The fact that he could land "47 significant strikes" and not finish BJ Penn itself is sad. So is the fact that he got out-wrestled by little BJ.
He needs to fight whoever the UFC is putting in front of him because it's going to end up working against him and he's not going to get a title shot. Please tell me how declining a fight the boss tells you to do will bring you anywhere closer to a title shot?
How are you going to tell me that my point doesn't apply? That's stupid. Get out of here "homie". 209, out!
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I see. It baffles you that I could find statistics outside of my PERSONAL opinion to back up my position.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: smfowns4
Date: August 17, 2011 at 10:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/five-ways-for-jon-fitch-to-get-another-title-shot.41355/

ResoluteProtector said:
I see. It baffles you that I could find statistics outside of my PERSONAL opinion to back up my position. I could see how that could bother any Hater.
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You're right. Because 11 transitions in 5 fights proves he's so active. And he can throw baby, pillow punches. He definitely tries to finish..