Greatest FW in UFC history

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Originally posted by: smartigan
Date: December 10, 2018 at 09:59 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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Jose Aldo
9-3 (2 time champion) (1 interim champion)
7 defences
3 finishes (Zombie injury included)
Notable Wins: Frankie Edgar x 2, Chad Mendes x 2, Kenny Florian
Losses: Max Holloway x 2, Conor McGregor
Bonuses: 1 POTN vs Jeremy Stephens
4 Fight of the Night vs. Mark Hominick, Frankie Edgar, Chad Mendes, and Max Holloway
Most title defences in UFC FW history
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Conor McGregor
7-0 (Champion)(Interim champion)
0 defences
6 finishes
Notable Wins: Jose Aldo, Chad Mendes, Dustin Poirier, Max Holloway
Losses: none
Bonuses: 5 vs Diego Brandão, Dustin Poirier, Dennis Siver, Chad Mendes and José Aldo
Fastest title fight victory in UFC FW history (13 seconds) vs. José Aldo
Most consecutive Performance of the Night awards: 8 (5 of them as FW)
Most knockouts in UFC featherweight division history
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Max Holloway
16-3 (Champion) (Interim champion)
2 defences
10 finishes (Including Oliviera's neck injury)
Notable Wins: Ortega, Jose Aldo x2, Anthony Pettis
Losses: Conor McGregor, Dennis Bermudez, Dustin Poirier
Bonuses: KOTN x 1, potn x 4 vs Akira Corassani, Cub Swanson, Anthony Pettis and Brian Ortega.
Most active wins in UFC featherweight division (15)
 
Originally posted by: MMAFTM13
Date: December 10, 2018 at 10:15 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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I f---ing clicked on Max by mistake. It’s Conor. He beat primed Aldo, beat Mendes, Poirer and Max. I love Max to bits, but he lost to Conor. Only one way to find out and that’s to run this back at FW
 
Originally posted by: ChrisminaL
Date: December 10, 2018 at 10:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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Well, it's between McGregor and Holloway in my opinion. Aldo's run is impressive, but he lost to both McG and Holloway (twice) and IMO age is not an excuse in any of these loss. One of Aldo's finest performance is his second win against Edgar, which happened between his losses to McG & Holloway.
McGregor won against Holloway when he was still a beast in the makin'. The only way to answer this question is with a rematch.
PS: I understood "greatest" as "greatest athlete/fighter", not as "who had/is having the greatest run in the division"
 
Originally posted by: Sapper
Date: December 10, 2018 at 10:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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Still Jose. Max looked like a killer on Sat night but he still has a some work to do to get greatest ever.
Conor could have been had he stayed and defended. Conor might be the greatest show but I don't put him in any goat talk. He went after the $$$ and there's nothing wrong with that.
 
Originally posted by: JonnyRico
Date: December 10, 2018 at 10:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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Aldo. Until someone matches or beats his run as a champion...it's him.
 
Originally posted by: wolf hunter
Date: December 10, 2018 at 10:17 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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its aldo, no one will be on top as long as he did, same as anderson
and i cant believe im gonna say it, mighty mouse
as per thier divisions
 
Originally posted by: wolf hunter
Date: December 10, 2018 at 10:19 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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wow me and rico agree on something
 
Originally posted by: redd1
Date: December 10, 2018 at 11:52 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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Aldo no question. Won until he tipped over the hill, same as Silva.
 
Originally posted by: cmvideo75
Date: December 10, 2018 at 12:06 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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Hate to say it but it's between Conor and Max, no disrespect to Aldo. Aldo lost to both of them close enough to his prime to be legit losses. Like Chrisminal said, he beat Edgar between losses to McG and Holloway so it wasn't like he was a done fighter. Max's wins were more impressive than Conor's. Conor's win was legit but a bit flukey. Until Conor and Max fight again, it is kind of a tie. I think Max has a better FW career but he can't erase that loss to Conor. Tough to put people over Conor when he beat them both. However if Max goes onto defend several more times and they never rematch, I'd have to go with Max in the long run. His full career at FW would be too long and too impressive... it would overcome one loss to another great fighter.
Conor is only in the conversation because he beat both of the other 2 guys in the conversation. Otherwise his career at FW is too short to be considered a 'greatest ever' type career (in that specific division). Longevity and maintaining the belt when you are both rolling and also not at your peak is GOAT type stuff. Conor's never done that.
 
Originally posted by: NiceGuy
Date: December 10, 2018 at 12:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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Aldo, with Max having the potential to take the spot with more defenses.
Conor's wins against Max and Poirier were legit, but happened when they were both relatively green and shouldn't hold as much weight as people give them.
 
Originally posted by: BlairBones
Date: December 10, 2018 at 01:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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redd1 said:
Aldo no question. Won until he tipped over the hill, same as Silva.
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Tipped over the hill? Ignoring Frankie II and the Stephens KO are we?
 
Originally posted by: BlairBones
Date: December 10, 2018 at 01:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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NiceGuy said:
Aldo, with Max having the potential to take the spot with more defenses.
Conor's wins against Max and Poirier were legit, but happened when they were both relatively green and shouldn't hold as much weight as people give them.
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Max green, yes. Dustin? Not so much. Dude was 8-2 in the UFC when he raced Conor and had even been given a bit of a push by headlining a card several fights prior.
 
Originally posted by: Mike Porch MMA
Date: December 10, 2018 at 02:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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Based on resume, its unquestionably Aldo. But the problem is that he did decisively lose to both Conor & Max.
Its really an argument between Aldo & Max imo.
And im going to back Aldo,
because
of that resume. Max is on an incredible roll. 13 straight. 4-0 in title bouts on this streak. Aldo defended his belt 9 straight times... Faber, Mendes 2x, Lamas, Zombie, Florian Edgar 2x and more. It wasnt until running into Conor that this P4P all time great status was just thrown to the side & forgotten about.
If you want to say "Well Max KO'ed him twice." Then thats fine. Its a good argument to make. But if we wanna talk
All Time
. All things considered in their careers... Max still has some work to do. People forget how dominant Aldo was. And he's still competing. Max is on a 13 fight win streak now. Jose was on a 15 fight WEC/UFC win streak before Conor. Going back even further its 18.
Max is phenomenal. But it seems a lot of us have forgotten what Aldo was in his prime. Rogan seems to be the worse culprit
 
Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: December 10, 2018 at 02:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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The guy who fought on Saturday is probably the best FW ever. He would probably beat any featherweight who ever came before him. He's definitely not he guy Conor fought ages ago. But I want to see Max do more before I hold that opinion definitively. So Aldo is probably the most accomplished Featherweight. Seems like just a matter of time for Max to surpass what Aldo managed.
 
Originally posted by: Mike Porch MMA
Date: December 10, 2018 at 02:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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What was is that Joe said during post fight? I could be remembering wrong (i probly am). I think one of his arguments is:
"With all due respect to Jose Aldo, and how dominant he was in his prime, I dont think he was as dominant and as sharp as Max is now."
He said something like that I think. I'd love to see that fight. Prime Aldo vs Max. lol
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: December 10, 2018 at 02:39 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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I really like Conor but he isn't even in the conversation. Holloway has been awesome but Aldo dominated the division for years and was doing things that a lot of 145ers couldn't do (and still has better overall resume).
 
Originally posted by: redd1
Date: December 10, 2018 at 03:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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BlairBones said:
Tipped over the hill? Ignoring Frankie II and the Stephens KO are we?
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Are you saying Frankie is at the peak of his ability either? Or Stephens was ever on either Frankie or Jose's level? MMA is a game where the slightest loss of speed, strength , or half a dozen other physical attributes can see someone go from being the greatest to a great to a guy that should hang them up. Is Aldo still great, yes, is he the same fighter he was at his peak, no. He is older, slower, more wear and tear on his body and that is just going to continue as he continues his career.
 
Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: December 10, 2018 at 03:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-fw-in-ufc-history.73198/
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Mike Porch MMA said:
What was is that Joe said during post fight? I could be remembering wrong (i probly am). I think one of his arguments is:
"With all due respect to Jose Aldo, and how dominant he was in his prime, I dont think he was as dominant and as sharp as Max is now."
He said something like that I think. I'd love to see that fight. Prime Aldo vs Max. lol
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We basically saw that twice. Aldo just turned 32. He was just 30 when he lost to Max and had one KO loss ever. 30 is when a fighters body and skills tend to reach a peak. I'd say, despite a loss to Conor, he was still as good as he ever was when he fought Max. After losing to Conor he still beat Frankie and Jeremy Stephens without issue. He didn't look like he lost a step at all when he beat Frankie after Conor. I think Aldo is still as good as he's ever been and if not for Conor and Max, he'd still be champ. He just isn't as good as those guys. Max is just a terrible matchup for Aldo.
 
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