Henderson/Pettis rematch?

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Originally posted by: magnuml
Date: September 02, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/henderson-pettis-rematch.57886/
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Have not heard anything except Dana saying that it will be a LONG road for Henderson to get a Title shot again. I find that funny seeing how things have been working in the UFC over the last few years. Heck winning is not even a requirement for Title shots in the UFC. Also he has proved over and over he is the Best at 155 until this fight. Beat every Top 10 guy almost at LW. Frankie had to fight the same man twice when he won the title, Hendo had to fight the same man twice when he won. So why not have a immediate rematch with Hendo and Pettis? Hendo defended his belt more times than anyone at LW in a very long time. Cain got KO"D and got a Immediate rematch so that can't be the reason. What did Henderson do that has made Dana be this way with him, I mean fair is fair. What do you all think, Fire away!
And please no answers saying Pettis beat Hendo twice now because the first win was not in the UFC and the majority of the people on here seem to think nothing a fighter does matters before the UFC.
 
Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: September 02, 2013 at 10:15 AM
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It is God's will.
 
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon
Date: September 02, 2013 at 10:19 AM
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Proved through a lot of controversy that hes the best over and over again. I thought he lost one of those fights with Edgar. I think it was the last one. The Melendez fight to me was a draw. He lost twice to the Current champ, so that puts him in the Koscheck/Fitch vs Gsp - Department. He wasnt dominating or stopping people, he was edging out splits and close decisions. If you believe that Hendo is the best in the world and so does he, then he'll earn it back...
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It is God's will.
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Cain dominated every guy he has ever fought outside of a hay-maker.
Sounds like you are a Bendo fan, but you also got to remember this is a talent filled division that has been held up by close decisions and rematches for WAY TOO LONG..... That is probably your biggest reason for this.
 
Originally posted by: Spidy
Date: September 02, 2013 at 10:20 AM
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I don't believe a rematch is in the making, unless maybe Gilbert is interested. Aldo/Pettis is the fight the UFC wants and they want it badly. Question is which weight does it happen at? Sounds like Pettis is down for Either/Or. Aldo's been talking about moving on up but his management seems to think he should stay right where he is and have Pettis come down so it should be rather interesting how all this plays out. Either way both divisions are loaded with talent so regardless what decision is made there will be a lot of intriguing potential matches to crown a champ in wichever division the title becomes vacant in
 
Originally posted by: darcebandit
Date: September 02, 2013 at 10:22 AM
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Because Frankie lost 2 close decisions, he beat Nate very well and scraped past Melendez, he could have easily lost 3 of those decisions but he got lucky with them, hardly a dominant champion. Bendo got finished decisively.
 
Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: September 02, 2013 at 10:35 AM
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Ben is boring and he got owned in his second attempt at redeeming a loss..............why should he get an immediate rematch? The Frankie comparison is laughable.
hell this is coming from a guy who wanted Pettis to get destroyed
 
Originally posted by: ChrisminaL
Date: September 02, 2013 at 10:44 AM
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Cain destroyed everyone till he was the champ. He did not get an immediate rematch, he first manhandled Bigfoot. There were no other contender so he fought again and it was worth it since he won the rematch.
Benson, on the other hand, did not destroy all of his opponent. Since he first lost to Pettis, he only had decisions. As champion, his first defence was a split decision (one judge scored it 49-46 against him) against a small opponent in Edgar, a dominant decision against Diaz (that's legit), and another split decision against Melendez. He got destroyed against Pettis which put him 0-2 against him, and it's not a la Velasquez who got caught, he was getting beat up on the feet with the mid-kicks and got caught in Pettis' guard. And the division is still deep (TJ Grant is the next challenger, Thomson shouldn't be too far, Dos Anjos is on a 5 winning-streak, Melendez & Maynard aren't too far, ...).
It made sense that Cain got a rematch pretty fast, and it makes sense that Henderson will need more than 1 win to get his shot
 
Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: September 02, 2013 at 11:00 AM
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Cain didn't receive an immediate rematch, he fought Big Foot before getting a rematch. More importantly, this was Cains first (and only) loss to JDS, not his 2nd. Those are the main facts you're forgetting.
Also, the LW division is the deepest in all of mma. The HW division isn't. I'm a Bendo fan, but he needs to win 2-3 fights CONVINCINGLY before we talk a rematch.
My personal belief is that Pettis won't hold the title that long, so there's a better chance that Ben wins the belt back from someone else rather than via rematch with Showtime.
 
Originally posted by: themmasupreme
Date: September 02, 2013 at 11:01 AM
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Pettis will always be Henderson's Kryptonite.
 
Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: September 02, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/henderson-pettis-rematch.57886/
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phoenix-mma said:
Cain didn't receive an immediate rematch, he fought Big Foot before getting a rematch. More importantly, this was Cains first (and only) loss to JDS, not his 2nd. Those are the main facts you're forgetting.
Also, the LW division is the deepest in all of mma. The HW division isn't. I'm a Bendo fan, but he needs to win 2-3 fights CONVINCINGLY before we talk a rematch.
My personal belief is that Pettis won't hold the title that long, so there's a better chance that Ben wins the belt back from someone else rather than via rematch with Showtime.
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Agreed. That loss to Guida makes me think at some point Pettis will be grapple f---ed again. That & there are some heavy hitters who could always catch him getting flashy.
 
Originally posted by: NYR30
Date: September 02, 2013 at 11:15 AM
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No rematch. Decisive finish in the 1st, Pettis has now beat him twice, Grant is waiting in the wings, and Bendo doesn't really deserve it anyway. Bendo was the recipient of some very good fortune. I thought he pretty clearly lost the 2nd Frankie fight and the Gil fight, and an argument can also be made for him losing the first Frankie fight as well.
 
Originally posted by: magnuml
Date: September 02, 2013 at 11:39 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/henderson-pettis-rematch.57886/
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PsychoIcon said:
Proved through a lot of controversy that hes the best over and over again. I thought he lost one of those fights with Edgar. I think it was the last one. The Melendez fight to me was a draw. He lost twice to the Current champ, so that puts him in the Koscheck/Fitch vs Gsp - Department. He wasnt dominating or stopping people, he was edging out splits and close decisions. If you believe that Hendo is the best in the world and so does he, then he'll earn it back...
Cain dominated every guy he has ever fought outside of a hay-maker.
Sounds like you are a Bendo fan, but you also got to remember this is a talent filled division that has been held up by close decisions and rematches for WAY TOO LONG..... That is probably your biggest reason for this.
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I am a fan of both.
 
Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: September 02, 2013 at 11:46 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/henderson-pettis-rematch.57886/
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BallsThruWall said:
Guida couldn't do that to Pettis of today. Bendo tried and got stuffed. Pettis learned his lesson.
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Bendo put Pettis against the cage..he didn't shoot in and use Pettis forward movement to put him on his back. We don't know if people can do that to Pettis because no one has tried since. That arm bar though showed he might be able to be laid on like Guida did in that fight though
 
Originally posted by: Spidy
Date: September 02, 2013 at 01:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/henderson-pettis-rematch.57886/
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NYR30 said:
No rematch. Decisive finish in the 1st, Pettis has now beat him twice, Grant is waiting in the wings, and Bendo doesn't really deserve it anyway. Bendo was the recipient of some very good fortune. I thought he pretty clearly lost the 2nd Frankie fight and the Gil fight, and an argument can also be made for him losing the first Frankie fight as well.
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There won't be a rematch. If Aldo and Pettis are healthy that's the SF DW and UFC is looking for and everyone knows DW loves him a SUPERFIGHT. The big ??? Is what weightclass ? All contenders in either LW/FW will just have to wait and see how that plays out cause if they can make that fight, you best believe they will, regardless of who is deserving of a shot
 
Originally posted by: princecharlestampon
Date: September 02, 2013 at 01:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/henderson-pettis-rematch.57886/
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We all know how III will end up... Just like I & II.
 
Originally posted by: NYR30
Date: September 02, 2013 at 01:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/henderson-pettis-rematch.57886/
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Spidy said:
There won't be a rematch. If Aldo and Pettis are healthy that's the SF DW and UFC is looking for and everyone knows DW loves him a SUPERFIGHT. The big ??? Is what weightclass ? All contenders in either LW/FW will just have to wait and see how that plays out cause if they can make that fight, you best believe they will, regardless of who is deserving of a shot
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Sometimes I f*cking hate the fact that the UFC is more money grubbing business than actual sports league. This is a prime example.
 
Originally posted by: RoundHouseForHumanity
Date: September 02, 2013 at 01:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/henderson-pettis-rematch.57886/
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Hate to say it, but Pettis is to Bendo what Edgar was to Penn.
Honestly, this defeat is what Henderson needed to retool his craft.
Even if he defended the belt for a record breaking time @ LW, most
critics would have dismissed it as a non-dominant run.
I'm now digging Pettis, and his new blood as the champ
Is already getting MMA fans excited with match up possibilities.
Best bet for Ben is get hungry again, being undefeated for 7 fights
and defending the the strap 3X has caused some complacency.
Pettis can lose to either Aldo or T.J. and that will be a quicker route
back to the belt for Bendo if he can win the next couple of mystery fights
Dana/Joe Sillva throws at him.
Ben will be back, just a matter of time.
 
Originally posted by: magnuml
Date: September 02, 2013 at 02:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/henderson-pettis-rematch.57886/
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Zuben said:
Bendo should not have been the champ after his second fight with Edgar. Outside of his victory over Nate, he got lucky with every titel defense. Now the belt is around the waist of a guy who has soundly defeated him twice he'll either have a long road back or Pettis will have to lose to someone that Henderson has beaten.
Frankly, I found all the talk about Bendo being a dominate champ to be laughable; he was easily the most vulnerable champ. I never thought of him as the real champ after the second Edgar fight, only a pretender.
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He sure did get LUCKY a lot I guess.
 
Originally posted by: magnuml
Date: September 02, 2013 at 02:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/henderson-pettis-rematch.57886/
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Spidy said:
There won't be a rematch. If Aldo and Pettis are healthy that's the SF DW and UFC is looking for and everyone knows DW loves him a SUPERFIGHT. The big ??? Is what weightclass ? All contenders in either LW/FW will just have to wait and see how that plays out cause if they can make that fight, you best believe they will, regardless of who is deserving of a shot
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I believe you may be right.
 
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