Khabib Nurmagomedov v Gilbert Melendez at 169?
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smartigan said:
Bendo has called out RDA!
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I'll take it.
With the 5 of those guys bunched up like that I'm guessing 1 gets the Pettis-Thomson winner and the other 4 get matched up. Probably Grant or Gil get next shot. So that leaves Bendo, Khabib, RDA, and whichever or Grant/Gil doesn't get next shot to fight each other. As I said, I'm fine with any combination.
jkp78453 said:
Damn, ppl are going to say that they should have brought Khabib up a little slower if this fight does happen at 169.
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Whaaaat? The guy's 5-0 in the UFC and 21-0 overall. Pat Healy is no joke opponent and neither is Gleison Tibau. He's earned a fight against any top guy. What he does with it remains to be seen.
I think bendo and gil shouldnt even be considered for a potential title shot anytime soon. They lost title fights, they should get their asses to the back of the bus and work their way back up by winning multiple fights. And a sloppy slugfest against a guy whos not very good and has to division jump 4 times shouldnt count for much. I think Grant, RDA and Khabib should be the top 3. Personally id like to see those 3 somehow avoid fighting eachother so the champ would have 3 fresh fights instead of fighting the same guy again or someone who just had a recent title shot.
Morbid said:
I think bendo and gil shouldnt even be considered for a potential title shot anytime soon. They lost title fights, they should get their asses to the back of the bus and work their way back up by winning multiple fights. And a sloppy slugfest against a guy whos not very good and has to division jump 4 times shouldnt count for much. I think Grant, RDA and Khabib should be the top 3. Personally id like to see those 3 somehow avoid fighting eachother so the champ would have 3 fresh fights instead of fighting the same guy again or someone who just had a recent title shot.
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That seems a little harsh. Two guys, both former title holders, have showed they do belong at the top of the division. Which to me, seems like you're advocating a fairness doctrine of sorts. Not saying that's flat out wrong, but is that really the best way to determine who is a top contender over a longer period of time?
FYI, I'm a huge TJ Grant fan - hometown boy and all that, so it's not like I'm saying this because I don't like the 3 you mentioned, nor am I saying that the three don't deserve a shot, either.
Anyway, my quibble is with the back of the bus idea and the idea that fresh guys (first time title fight guys) should get a crack ahead of former #1 contenders or ex-champions. Not saying immediate re-matches, but just keep everyone in the mix and let it get sorted out between them as to who faces the champ next.
The problem being, from my perspective, is that there's only one champion and there are a lot more guys not fighting the champion at any given moment than are fighting him - the natural result of what is a tiered feeder system (yeah, I know obvious). But keeping guys away from each other just so they eventually get a clear shot at the champion, means you're going to have a lot of filler fights with presumably lower ranked fighters. Fights then risk dropping farther fighting lower ranked guys a lot and biding time 'til they championship tilts come their way and we'd end up with meaningless fights. Or your top guys, once they get close, are going to sit idle waiting.
Which then creates a barrier for newer guys coming up, in a sense. Rather than fight against guys in their relative rankings, they're getting kicked up the food chain to be fed to the top dogs avoiding other top guys and as a result, having lesser chances to advance.
I think the process, amorphous and vague as it is, needs the tops guys to sort it out between them and that's who determines who faces the champ. Me, I don't care if the champ fights a fresh guy or retread, as long as the opponent is the top pick available.
Morbid said:
I think bendo and gil shouldnt even be considered for a potential title shot anytime soon. They lost title fights, they should get their asses to the back of the bus and work their way back up by winning multiple fights. And a sloppy slugfest against a guy whos not very good and has to division jump 4 times shouldnt count for much. I think Grant, RDA and Khabib should be the top 3. Personally id like to see those 3 somehow avoid fighting eachother so the champ would have 3 fresh fights instead of fighting the same guy again or someone who just had a recent title shot.
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Yeah I'd way rather see flash in the pan guys on winning streaks get a title shot over guys who have proven for years to be at the top of the division
. Grant "deserved" his shot but couldn't make it...RDA/Khabib haven't proven anything yet.
Morbid said:
I think bendo and gil shouldnt even be considered for a potential title shot anytime soon. They lost title fights, they should get their asses to the back of the bus and work their way back up by winning multiple fights. And a sloppy slugfest against a guy whos not very good and has to division jump 4 times shouldnt count for much. I think Grant, RDA and Khabib should be the top 3. Personally id like to see those 3 somehow avoid fighting eachother so the champ would have 3 fresh fights instead of fighting the same guy again or someone who just had a recent title shot.
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If you want to avoid having Grant, RDA, and Nurmagomedov fighting each other, they need to fight Melendez and Bendo. And then if Melendez and Bendo win, they just beat a top contender, and therefore, deserve title shots.......