Originally posted by: wolf Date: October 13, 2009 at 01:52 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
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Man, two really good wrestlers going at it. I think Hamill takes it in the wrestling department and Bones takes it in the striking. But this is a really intriguing match-up. I think if Hamill stand he'll eventually get rocked, but if Hamill is able to take it to the ground I see him having the edge there. Both have great cardio and this could turn into a decision if Bones isn't able to KO Hamill and Hamill isn't able to finish it on the ground. IF Jones wins this fight, he'll shoot into top 10 for sure.
Originally posted by: Marktheshark Date: October 13, 2009 at 03:23 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
i think if hamil is smart and turns it into a wrestling match he will win if he try to stand and bang he will lose hamil is bigger stronger and a better wrestler if he comes in with a good gameplan should be a easy victory
Originally posted by: bjj_rage Date: October 13, 2009 at 04:17 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
well, just because hamill is a better wrestler (has better credentials I guess) doesnt mean he will be ablle to take down Jones, who is a good wrestler him self. In a wrestling Match, hamill should win, this isnt wrestling, I think Jones takes it.
Originally posted by: TheVileOne Date: October 13, 2009 at 04:26 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
Should be interesting. I think Jones has looked amazing so far. A win here would pretty much establish him as a top level light heavyweight.
Hammill's good and he's powerful, but his striking has looked sloppy and I think Jones could beat him.
Originally posted by: ACOGSCOPE Date: October 13, 2009 at 04:26 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
Originally posted by: wolf Date: October 13, 2009 at 04:27 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
TheVileOne said:
Should be interesting. I think Jones has looked amazing so far. A win here would pretty much establish him as a top level light heavyweight.
Hammill's good and he's powerful, but his striking has looked sloppy and I think Jones could beat him.
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Striking - Jones > Hamill
Ground Game - Jones < Hamill
Who ever imposes their will and keeps it in their realm will win the fight. Unless Hamill Miraculously KO's Jones with a headkick like he did against Munoz.
Originally posted by: TheVileOne Date: October 13, 2009 at 04:31 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
wolf said:
TheVileOne said:
Should be interesting. I think Jones has looked amazing so far. A win here would pretty much establish him as a top level light heavyweight.
Hammill's good and he's powerful, but his striking has looked sloppy and I think Jones could beat him.
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Striking - Jones > Hamill
Ground Game - Jones < Hamill
Who ever imposes their will and keeps it in their realm will win the fight. Unless Hamill Miraculously KO's Jones with a headkick like he did against Munoz.
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I don't think it was so miraculous wolf, but Hammill looked to pretty much be having his way with Munoz before that kick.
Also Jones clearly have some submission skills in his arsenal going off of his last fight.
Originally posted by: TheCombatConnoisseur Date: October 13, 2009 at 04:59 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
I think this fight will turn into primarily a stand-up battle, I could see this being one of those fights were Hamil should take it to the ground but never does (like he is trying to prove that he can hang with an elite striker). That being said, Jon Jones will get the best of most of the exchanges by using his superior speed and his ability to put together a wide variety of combinations. Jones will not be able to put the fight away because of Hamil's chin and he will win by decision.
In all honesty I think Hamil is going to turn himself into one of the gatekeepers of the LHW division. I don't even see him being one the elite of the division and I totally I think Jon Jones has those capabilities.
Originally posted by: bjj_rage Date: October 13, 2009 at 05:02 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
TheCombatConnoisseur said:
I think this fight will turn into primarily a stand-up battle, I could see this being one of those fights were Hamil should take it to the ground but never does (like he is trying to prove that he can hang with an elite striker). That being said, Jon Jones will get the best of most of the exchanges by using his superior speed and his ability to put together a wide variety of combinations. Jones will not be able to put the fight away because of Hamil's chin and he will win by decision.
In all honesty I think Hamil is going to turn himself into one of the gatekeepers of the LHW division. I don't even see him being one the elite of the division and I totally I think Jon Jones has those capabilities.
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couldnt agree more.
Originally posted by: wolf Date: October 13, 2009 at 05:06 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
bjj_rage said:
TheCombatConnoisseur said:
I think this fight will turn into primarily a stand-up battle, I could see this being one of those fights were Hamil should take it to the ground but never does (like he is trying to prove that he can hang with an elite striker). That being said, Jon Jones will get the best of most of the exchanges by using his superior speed and his ability to put together a wide variety of combinations. Jones will not be able to put the fight away because of Hamil's chin and he will win by decision.
In all honesty I think Hamil is going to turn himself into one of the gatekeepers of the LHW division. I don't even see him being one the elite of the division and I totally I think Jon Jones has those capabilities.
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couldnt agree more.
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+1 I gotta agree with this too. We've seen Hamill do that before...stand when he shouldn't. Although does anyone here think that Jones could stuff the take down attempts? He certainly is explosive enough...or as rogan and goldy would say, he's such an extreme athlete!
Originally posted by: HBK42581 Date: October 13, 2009 at 07:35 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
Originally posted by: royce Date: October 13, 2009 at 08:08 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
Originally posted by: kobeVSraja Date: October 13, 2009 at 08:13 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
wolf said:
bjj_rage said:
TheCombatConnoisseur said:
I think this fight will turn into primarily a stand-up battle, I could see this being one of those fights were Hamil should take it to the ground but never does (like he is trying to prove that he can hang with an elite striker). That being said, Jon Jones will get the best of most of the exchanges by using his superior speed and his ability to put together a wide variety of combinations. Jones will not be able to put the fight away because of Hamil's chin and he will win by decision.
In all honesty I think Hamil is going to turn himself into one of the gatekeepers of the LHW division. I don't even see him being one the elite of the division and I totally I think Jon Jones has those capabilities.
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couldnt agree more.
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+1 I gotta agree with this too. We've seen Hamill do that before...stand when he shouldn't. Although does anyone here think that Jones could stuff the take down attempts? He certainly is explosive enough...or as rogan and goldy would say, he's such an extreme athlete!
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After his last figfht he said he would impose his game plan more tho so you never kno
Originally posted by: Phase Date: October 13, 2009 at 08:52 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
Assuming Jones' is learning to throw some fast, straight punches with those long *** arms of his, and he keeps working on the fundamentals of his striking (he looked good against O'Brien, but he was still showing some beginners habits, like extending his arms as a reflex when Jake was coming in), I see this being a pretty easy decision for him. I doubt he'll knock Hamill out; Matt has a hell of a chin. But assuming Jones' standup is still improving at a fast rate, I don't see anything Hamill offers that he can't handle.
Originally posted by: BaconBits Date: October 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
Jon Jones should win this fight. I see him frustrating Hamill in the stand up early, which will cause Matt to go off the reservation and he will try to stand and bang. A stand up war favors Jones big time, because he is the faster, more athletic fighter. UD Jones.
Originally posted by: urijahblupit Date: October 14, 2009 at 12:06 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
JOnes has so much potential it gives me goose bumps. if he can continue to look as he did against bonnar i think hammill with be outclassed. which is a shame cuz hammill is a great pioneer for the sport and for handicapped. but jones man he is coming up
Originally posted by: Doogie Date: October 14, 2009 at 12:45 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
Jones is a good young talent, wouldnt want to see him lose right now to anybody... but I like Hamill, lotsa heart and heavy hands, good chin, solid work rate ....not super-athetic on his feet, but strong on the ground...
205 is stacked, so the real question is this: what does the winner of the fight expect it will do to help him leapfrog the fighters in line ahead of him ?
Both Jone and Hamill are several fights away from a title shot, but if they keep winning ya cant count em out either.....maybe winner of this fight gets loser of Rashad vs. Thiago Silva ? or maybe winner of Jones vs. Hamill gets winner of Kimbo vs. Houston Alexander (if thats really going down) ?
also, i would love to see Jones vs. Krzysztof Soszynski and Hamill vs. Brain Stann
I think Hamill would do better at 185... maybe.
This should be a great fight...
Originally posted by: chase316 Date: October 14, 2009 at 03:27 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
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Originally posted by: veritas Date: October 15, 2009 at 02:21 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-hamill-vs-jon-bones-jones-at-tuf-10-finale.18433/
micloudon123 said:
jon jones is a prodigy matt hamill will have a very hard time controlling him.
I say jon jones win by split dc.
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hamill will have a hard time because jones is a prodigy? i dont get that
i think hamill is a great wrestler but jones is a great judo guy, as seen in the bonnar fight. i think this will negate some of the wrestling advantage hamill has. jones is clearly better on the feet, but also in th bonnar fight he gased very fast when he has to go past the 1st round. if jones can keep it standing he should win. however if hamill can survive the first wave he can win the fight in a disicion of late ground stoppage imo.
