Next Heavyweight to get title shot?

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:06 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

So who will get to face the winner of Mir/Lesnar? Nobody really has win streaks, but all the prospect would at least be bloody entertaining to watch fight each other.
While i realize some people will bash the HW division because of it's depth, that argument is a moot point in this thread, Fedor is not in the UFC, get over it, there is still highly entertaining potential fights in the HW division and somebody will have to step up and face either Mir or Lesnar.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Big_Boy
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

Which ever makes the most money.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Project86
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:13 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

shaen carwin if he is fighting is september i say give him heath and if he beats him give hi ma title shot because brock beat him but if shane can ko him it would make a big statement

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Shai
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

Assuming that the fight isn't a snoozer I'd say the winner of Nog/Couture. But as usual it will probably be whoever brings in the coin, as big_boy pointed out.
And since a ton of fans consider the HW division to be the most exciting, at least the division is finally coming along.
Also, jak I love the addition of Lyoto, :lol:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

Personally, i don't know enough about dos Santos, but i would like to see him get a top fight in his next fight. He finishes fights fast, good hands, but whether he is to small for the 265ers remains to be seen.
ideally a dos Santos/Velasquez fight would be nice, but with a watered down division it would be hard to put to top prospects against each other.
For the time being though, i will also say Shane Carwin.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

I gave a vote for Carwin.
If we're talking what the most logical, it would be Carwin fighting Cain, but I think the ufc wont do that cause one of them will lose, and they are trying to establish a group of contenders for the heavy. So I think Carwin gets the winner of Mir/Lesnar, while Cain will fight the Randy/Nog winner.
Meanwhile Dos Santos gets the shaft, while I think he is the best heavyweight in the ufc already. Dos Santos will probably fight either Herring or Kongo.
I think given Shane's age, it makes sense to give him the title shot, while the other two prospects are very young and have time.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Big_Boy
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

Dos Santos is fighting Justin MCcully at UFC 102.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: c_tarver
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

Project86 said:
shaen carwin if he is fighting is september i say give him heath and if he beats him give hi ma title shot because brock beat him but if shane can ko him it would make a big statement
Click to expand...
But what if Heath beats him, which would be entirely possible? I say give Carwin Heath Herring. Whoever wins gets the shot. After that, give Cain the winner of Nog and Randy. Whoever wins THAT bout should get the title shot after Carwin/Herring.
Don't count out Heath Herring. He's still a bad man who can take some serious punishment and still keep going.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: vfrex
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

Carwin is most likely. Lesnar vs Carwin would be an easy fight to market.
Nog has NOT looked good in his UFC wins. Herring isn't a contender. Sylvia is...sylvia. And of course, he looked terrible against Mir. He's going to need to make a huge statement against Couture to change that, but I put the chances of that close to 0. Couture can't hang with the top of the HW division anymore and he knows it. He won't be around for much longer either.
Cain needs another win or two.
Dos Santos hasn't fought on a main card yet and is pretty unknown. And while it would be sweet if Black House owned HW, LHW, and MW belts, I don't know how the UFC would feel about half of its champs speaking broken english.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Big_Boy
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

Santos fought Werdum on UFC 90 Main Card.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: cool14
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

Big_Boy said:
Which ever makes the most money.
Click to expand...
+1. If Brock Lesner win and Nog win they will fight each other. If Mir win and Couture win they will fight each other. We wont see another Lesner vs Couture or Mir vs Nog.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

cool14 said:
If Mir win and Couture win they will fight each other.
Click to expand...
I would like to see a Mir/Couture fight. i think that would be a good fight.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: vfrex
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

Big_Boy said:
Santos fought Werdum on UFC 90 Main Card.
Click to expand...
Oops. Good point. It bothered me when the UFC stuck him on the undercard for his next fight. Looking at 102, I sincerely doubt that he'll make the main card again, despite his impressive performances.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Big_Boy
Date: June 14, 2009 at 03:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

vfrex said:
Big_Boy said:
Santos fought Werdum on UFC 90 Main Card.
Click to expand...
Oops. Good point. It bothered me when the UFC stuck him on the undercard for his next fight. Looking at 102, I sincerely doubt that he'll make the main card again, despite his impressive performances.
Click to expand...
Yeah that fight with McCully @ 102 is under card for sure.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: June 14, 2009 at 04:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

If you take all the hype away, and just look at their fights who actually has been most impressive out of
Cain
Carwin
Dos Santos
Cain and Carwin are great fighters but have elements they need to work on, Dos Santos has absoultey owned both of the guys he faced, yet you guys dont even bring him up, f---ing ridiculous.
And now the give him Mcully, a lose lose, if Mccully beats him, Dos Santos will be undercard for a while I wager, and if he beats Mccully he wont get much of a boost. I bet Ed Soares hates Dana right now.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: demonicc
Date: June 14, 2009 at 04:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

I gave the nod to Carwin due to his knockout victory over Gonzaga. Gonzaga's mental lapse won Carwin the fight more than anything.
Dos Santos is being screwed here though. I think the UFC might build him up later.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: June 14, 2009 at 04:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

NarlyPersianDude said:
Dos Santos has absoultey owned both of the guys he faced, yet
you guys
dont even bring him up, f**king ridiculous.
Click to expand...
Who are you talking about, i clearly brought dos Santos up as the fighter i would like to see get the next big HW fight. :?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: June 14, 2009 at 04:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

Yeah how the f--- do you go from knocking out Werdum, who was next in line to fight for the belt, to then fighting Struve and Mccully.
He keeps wining but his opponents keep getting weaker and weaker.
Okay I understand maybe hes not ready for a title shot but at least give him Gonzaga Herring Hardonk etc.................................................

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: chase316
Date: June 14, 2009 at 04:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

We have to assume it will be 3-5 months till the next shot after UFC 100, Carwin stated he is coming back in september, so that could be too early for a title shot, Dos Santos is fighting McCully, Cain just beat a solid contender in Kongo but still needs one more fight IMO, and we'll have to see how competitive Couture and Nog are in their fight, Couture IMO is not done, and could put up a fight for the belt, Nog is most likely done, especcially with recent retirement talks. Machida needs to destroy Rua, Rampage, and Forrest/Hendo to even be able to have a "Money Fight" with the HW champ. Kongo will now need to fight 2-3 fights, and one being a good wrestler to be able to get his name in title contender talks (imo he never will, too old, not enough wrestling to stay competive with the big boys). Herring is a gate keeper, a great gate keeper with a huge chin and very well rounded skills, but not contender material.
What will most likely happen is a Carwin/Herring fight in Sept, and if Carwin wins, he will get a shot on the End of the Year Card in Dec, which is bit long for my liking for the Heavy Belt being fought for, but twice a year is better than once (Bj I'm talking to you!!)
Oh and if the ufc puts on a Cain/Carwin fight in sept, i will find dana and kiss him on his big shiny dome peice! It won't happen, but i didn't think a marquet/maia fight would happen either so let's see

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: June 14, 2009 at 04:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-heavyweight-to-get-title-shot.14623/

Jak said:
NarlyPersianDude said:
Dos Santos has absoultey owned both of the guys he faced, yet
you guys
dont even bring him up, f**king ridiculous.
Click to expand...
Who are you talking about, i clearly brought dos Santos up as the fighter i would like to see get the next big HW fight. :?
Click to expand...
Check the thread dude. You put him in as an option to vote for, but who in the thread aside from you mentioned him to get a title shot???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????