"UFC is NOT a Sport!"

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Originally posted by: ~BUDO~
Date: April 24, 2014 at 01:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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I'm listening to Junkie radio right now and Jeremy Botter is co-hosting. For those that don't know, Jeremy is a respected MMA journalist who is widely considered a deep insider in the MMA industry.
When discussing the topic of Gina Carano coming back and getting an immediate title shot, he said a few interesting things.
-The "hardcores" are responsible for 160-210,000 PPV buys for every UFC PPV.
-There's a 70% chance Ronda vs Gina will happen in December.
-If it does happen he thinks it will do 1M buys.
-That fight is ridiculous to people who know the UFC, but works for those who don't follow as seriously.
That was all interesting but the biggest thing he said was, and this is as close to verbatim as I can recall, "Let's be honest, the UFC is NOT a sport, it's an entertainment organization. Every decision Zuffa makes is based on entertainment and finances first, they just revolve around the concept of being a sport."
That's a very heavy statement, how do you feel about it?
 
Originally posted by: MysterLynch
Date: April 24, 2014 at 01:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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BUDO-MMA-NYC said:
I'm listening to Junkie radio right now and Jeremy Botter is co-hosting. For those that don't know, Jeremy is a respected MMA journalist who is widely considered a deep insider in the MMA industry.
When discussing the topic of Gina Carano coming back and getting an immediate title shot, he said a few interesting things.
-The "hardcores" are responsible for 160-210,000 PPV buys for every UFC PPV.
-There's a 70% chance Ronda vs Gina will happen in December.
-If it does happen he thinks it will do 1M buys.
-That fight is ridiculous to people who know the UFC, but works for those who don't follow as seriously.
That was all interesting but the biggest thing he said was, and this is as close to verbatim as I can recall, "Let's be honest, the UFC is NOT a sport, it's an entertainment organization. Every decision Zuffa makes is based on entertainment and finances first, they just revolve around the concept of being a sport."
That's a very heavy statement, how do you feel about it?
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I don't agree. Yes, money plays a big role, but does anyone really think each match-up is dictated by money? Rubbish. Say what you will about Dana, but he loves MMA and you can hear it in his voice, especially when he and Joe are talking.
The UFC, like EVERY sports franchise, looks at finances and the appeal to fans. Look at the rule changes in various sports over the years, 90% are designed to make the games more fan friendly.
Botter has been covering the sport for 4 or 5 years, but never for a major site and I don't think he is a guy that has major connections, so I don't really take his business perspective too seriously.
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: April 24, 2014 at 01:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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LOL, might as well stop reading after "MMA Journalist".
 
Originally posted by: Budders
Date: April 24, 2014 at 01:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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The UFC is not a sport. Just like the NHL is not a sport, NFL is not a sport, NBA is not a sport. Those are all companies. It's kind of a silly question. MMA is a sport, Hockey is a sport, Football is a sport, Basketball is a sport.
 
Originally posted by: Spud
Date: April 24, 2014 at 01:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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Well yeah, UFC is a business.
MMA is a sport.
Anyone who doesn't understand that probably struggles to spell their own name.
 
Originally posted by: abc0331
Date: April 24, 2014 at 02:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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No s---. This is what people have been saying to you for some time now.
People keep trying to place sporting rules on an entertainment product.
But all mma is packaged the same way and has been since the first ufc that was created to promote gracie jiu-jitsu.
There has never been mma without that angle. And never will be.
Mma really reminds me of that great place to live that everyone starts moving to. They get involved and want to change aspects of that place to fit there old home life. The problem is those very changes, change that once great place to live to just another place. Leave the town alone and let the people in it enjoy it. If there are aspects of your town you like, stay there.
 
Originally posted by: PejaPolo
Date: April 24, 2014 at 02:11 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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^^^^^Bad analogy....nothing to do with the topic lol^^^^^
 
Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: April 24, 2014 at 02:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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There is no difference between what the UFC does and anyone other org like the NBA or NFL. They all make decisions based on financial gain.
 
Originally posted by: PejaPolo
Date: April 24, 2014 at 02:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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I would say one difference is rankings.... In the other sports they matter.
Besides that it is pretty much the same
 
Originally posted by: CupcakeKatie
Date: April 24, 2014 at 02:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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You cannot use the terms "UFC" and "MMA" interchangeably in this discussion. One is a profit-based organization while the other is a sport.
 
Originally posted by: JonnyRico
Date: April 24, 2014 at 02:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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PejaPolo said:
I would say one difference is rankings.... In the other sports they matter.
Besides that it is pretty much the same
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Team sports also are a lot more active and their schedules are always laid out ahead of time for the season. MMA rankings are determined 1 fight at a time
 
Originally posted by: ~BUDO~
Date: April 24, 2014 at 02:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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PejaPolo said:
I would say one difference is rankings.... In the other sports they matter.
Besides that it is pretty much the same
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That's the joke of the UFC creating their own rankings. They throw them in the garbage whenever they don't work for their business plan.
 
Originally posted by: PejaPolo
Date: April 24, 2014 at 02:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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JonnyRico said:
Team sports also are a lot more active and their schedules are always laid out ahead of time for the season. MMA rankings are determined 1 fight at a time
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What I meant is kind of like what BUDO just said. They do not always give the #1 contender the next shot. Yeah sometimes it is because of injury or something but a lot of the time it is not the guy only out ranked by the champ.
 
Originally posted by: Oldwardog
Date: April 24, 2014 at 02:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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Hell I figured that was obvious to all when they gave Diaz a title shot he was far from earning. BUT 1 Million buys please!!
 
Originally posted by: ~BUDO~
Date: April 24, 2014 at 02:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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Oldwardog said:
Hell I figured that was obvious to all when they gave Diaz a title shot he was far from earning. BUT 1 Million buys please!!
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What about all the fights Chael got that he didn't deserve?!?
 
Originally posted by: Budders
Date: April 24, 2014 at 02:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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BUDO-MMA-NYC said:
What about all the fights Chael got that he didn't deserve?!?
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All? The only fight Chael got that he didn't deserve was Jon Jones..
 
Originally posted by: mmablaster
Date: April 24, 2014 at 02:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-is-not-a-sport.62010/
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BUDO-MMA-NYC said:
That was all interesting but the biggest thing he said was, and this is as close to verbatim as I can recall, "Let's be honest, the UFC is NOT a sport, it's an entertainment organization. Every decision Zuffa makes is based on entertainment and finances first, they just revolve around the concept of being a sport."
That's a very heavy statement, how do you feel about it?
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Every pro sports league that generates revenue is an entertainment organization. Every decision the NFL makes is based on getting more fans, better TV numbers, more advertising revenue, more TV revenue.
 
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