unusual MMA techniques

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: squib
Date: March 16, 2008 at 05:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

In the "UFC Rules thread" a couple of unusual moves were brought up, to see if they were useable in the UFC. These include the
biceps slicer
http://www.mma-training.com/bicep-slicer/
calf slicer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7u0Q2dUW7c
there's also the gogoplata, which has been used (Nick Diaz v Takanori Gomi is the most well-known)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTKDmjU88Jc
and I just stumbled across the
backbreaker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99xGVTXO2M&NR=1
anyone got any other odd subs or moves?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Showdown
Date: March 16, 2008 at 06:06 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

Flying arm-bar, flying triangle...Hardly done as well.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: squib
Date: March 16, 2008 at 07:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

which have been used?
the gogoplata's been used succesfully - so has the flying heel-hook (Ryo Chonan v Anderson Silva in PRIDE).
Ricco Rodriguez smothered Takayuki Okada at PRIDE 10 (if I remember correctly). It was like he covered Okada's mouth with his abdomen. Strange win, but I guess it counts.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Archean_Life
Date: March 16, 2008 at 07:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

Aoki has MMA victories using both the flying triangle, and the gogoplata.
He also broke Wisniewski's arm with a "wakigatame".
Machida choked out McDonald using just his forearm.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: squib
Date: March 16, 2008 at 08:38 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

Aoki's the man.
ps that Ricco Rodriguez smothering move was against someone else - don't recall details...
pps Mark Hunt used the "atomic butt drop" against Wanderlei, but it didn't knock him out. (Randy Couture is credited with naming the "technique")

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Nick_Havok
Date: March 16, 2008 at 09:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

I'd say the gogoplata is pretty unsusual for the simple fact that no one has landed one yet in the UFC.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Archean_Life
Date: March 16, 2008 at 09:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

Can't think of any successful omoplatas in the UFC either.
Tavares tried one against Tyson Griffin, but he escaped.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Nick_Havok
Date: March 16, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

Archean_Life said:
Can't think of any successful omoplatas in the UFC either.
Tavares tried one against Tyson Griffin, but he escaped.
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No kidding. Those submissions are very rare.
I have seen more gogos than omos in my life.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: 3inchfury
Date: March 16, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

10 finger guillotine choke...

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Erock
Date: March 17, 2008 at 01:00 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

It's not a submission technique, but the push-up/chest smash move that GSP unloaded on Matt Hughes's face in their last fight was pretty cool to see. It actually looked pretty brutal from where I was sitting.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Archean_Life
Date: March 17, 2008 at 02:41 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

I'm actually surprised that move is legal. He's essentially smashing the back of Hughes head into the ground.
It's impressive and it works, but it seems rather dangerous to me.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Dave
Date: March 17, 2008 at 05:27 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

You guys can possibly clear this one up for me, I've never read the rules so forgive the possibly newbie question! Tim Sylvia fought assuero Silva a few years ago and Silva pulled guard against the fence so was halfway up the fence, Sylvia kept him there till the ref split them this happened a few times, if I was in Sylvias position I would have turned Silva away from the cage then jumped in the air to land on him hard using him to cushion the force of the landing (like an attached frog splash almost) and almost certainly finishing him or leaving him in a position to be easily finished (imagine Tim Sylvia landing on you in those circumstances, ouch!) so why didnt he? Do the rules prohibit this?
Obviously this would be very dangerous with potential for bother fighters being hurt so I could see it being prohibited just something I always wanted to know and was too lazy too clarify!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: KnuklHed
Date: March 17, 2008 at 07:35 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

Dave said:
Obviously this would be very dangerous with potential for bother fighters being hurt so I could see it being prohibited just something I always wanted to know and was too lazy too clarify!
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I don't see this being as dangerous as being slammed trying to hold on to a triangle.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Erock
Date: March 17, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

Dave said:
You guys can possibly clear this one up for me, I've never read the rules so forgive the possibly newbie question! Tim Sylvia fought assuero Silva a few years ago and Silva pulled guard against the fence so was halfway up the fence, Sylvia kept him there till the ref split them this happened a few times, if I was in Sylvias position I would have turned Silva away from the cage then jumped in the air to land on him hard using him to cushion the force of the landing (like an attached frog splash almost) and almost certainly finishing him or leaving him in a position to be easily finished (imagine Tim Sylvia landing on you in those circumstances, ouch!) so why didnt he? Do the rules prohibit this?
Obviously this would be very dangerous with potential for bother fighters being hurt so I could see it being prohibited just something I always wanted to know and was too lazy too clarify!
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I think Timmy was afraid if he slammed the ground too hard, then the poop would leak out of his Huggies.
But seriously, I don't think this would be quite as damaging as being slammed to the mat Rampage-style. The simple physics is that you'll deliver more force by whipping a guy down in a slam from up high than just by falling/jumping on him. In Tim's case, this would have also put him instantly in Silva's guard, and I doubt that's where he wanted to be in that fight.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Meatmallet
Date: March 17, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

One of my favorite is Anderson Silva vs Tony Fryklund and that nasty backward elbow.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Dave
Date: March 17, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

what im getting at is the head being crushed whilst simultaneously hitting the mat, in my mind that is pretty dangerous, more so than being slammed down (where you face only one pressure instead of two and do your best to keep your head up, no such choice with weight forcing it down)
so thats a completely valid move? (what about a piledriver
)

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: squib
Date: March 17, 2008 at 01:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

Dave said:
what im getting at is the head being crushed whilst simultaneously hitting the mat, in my mind that is pretty dangerous, more so than being slammed down (where you face only one pressure instead of two and do your best to keep your head up, no such choice with weight forcing it down)
so thats a completely valid move? (what about a piledriver
)
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The GSP body slam to Hughes' head move isn't in the rule book, so for the time being, it's allowed. Piledrivers are explicitly forbidden (I know you weren't serious).
PRIDE allowed some pretty nasty moves. Rampage came close to piledriving one dude early on, but fortunately, he didn't succeed. One fighter backed into his corner, raised himself up on the ropes and kicked at the charging opponent. Didn't do much, but it's not in the rule book, so worth a try. Another nasty move was a fight that ended by hand-choke. That means grabbing your opponent by the throat with your hand and squeezing with the fingers. Bas Rutten was amazed, as he didn't know it was allowed in PRIDE.
If it's not in the rule book, give it a try until you're told to stop.
ps A. Silva's reverse elbow v Fryklund was pretty amazing
pps Runina Sato's flying armbar v Charles Taylor was pretty stunning

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: squib
Date: March 17, 2008 at 01:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

Rampage's slam victory v Arona was unusual, although Tito KO'd Tanner with a slam (& a few follow up shots).
Yoshida, olympic gold medal judo dude who fought in PRIDE apparently won gold by defeating all of his opponents via
Ippon
, which is a throw landing one's opponent on his head.
speaking of which, I can't believe that Randleman didn't kill Fedor by suplexing him on his head.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Halvy51
Date: March 17, 2008 at 08:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

squib said:
Dave said:
what im getting at is the head being crushed whilst simultaneously hitting the mat, in my mind that is pretty dangerous, more so than being slammed down (where you face only one pressure instead of two and do your best to keep your head up, no such choice with weight forcing it down)
so thats a completely valid move? (what about a piledriver
)
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The GSP body slam to Hughes' head move isn't in the rule book, so for the time being, it's allowed. Piledrivers are explicitly forbidden (I know you weren't serious).
PRIDE allowed some pretty nasty moves. Rampage came close to piledriving one dude early on, but fortunately, he didn't succeed. One fighter backed into his corner, raised himself up on the ropes and kicked at the charging opponent. Didn't do much, but it's not in the rule book, so worth a try. Another nasty move was a fight that ended by hand-choke. That means grabbing your opponent by the throat with your hand and squeezing with the fingers. Bas Rutten was amazed, as he didn't know it was allowed in PRIDE.
If it's not in the rule book, give it a try until you're told to stop.
ps A. Silva's reverse elbow v Fryklund was pretty amazing
pps Runina Sato's flying armbar v Charles Taylor was pretty stunning
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Crackhead "Crazy Horse" did the jumping back onto the ropes with both hands and double front kicked his opponent. Same fight where he KO'd the dude, then jumped over the top rope onto the ground and ran around the ring.
Aoki's standing arm lock was awesome. The only one I haven't seen is the Locoplata (check it out on-line). Gotta love the double GogoBrada too.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Daikonz
Date: March 18, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/unusual-mma-techniques.241/

I'm a fan of Kill Bill's 5 Finger Exploding Heart technique. If anyone can pull it off, I'd go with Chonan.