Originally posted by: Sunfish Hero Date: October 03, 2013 at 03:22 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Thak27 said:
I'll never understand the thought process behind cutting guys like Uriah Hall. Name recognition is such an important factor in promoting fights. Hall has it, and now the UFC is about to cut him?
How about developing your big name prospects and give them some leeway? That's what they do in other sports.
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If Hall loses another fight, he's going to start a steady decline into obscurity. Same thing happened to Phillipe Nover. Let him go back to the regional circuit and cut his teeth. The UFC is filled to bursting and really, with a 0-3 record in the UFC, he's just taking up space.
This is all
if
he loses. And if he loses to Leben, he really doesn't deserve to be in the UFC.
Originally posted by: Contender Date: October 03, 2013 at 03:25 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Thak27 said:
I'll never understand the thought process behind cutting guys like Uriah Hall. Name recognition is such an important factor in promoting fights. Hall has it, and now the UFC is about to cut him?
How about developing your big name prospects and give them some leeway? That's what they do in other sports.
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Yeah, let him at least go 0-10. And when he's 0-11, ask him if he wants a back rub or a foot massage or if he just wants to be loved and needs a hug.
Originally posted by: Sapper Date: October 03, 2013 at 03:25 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Must be a slow week.. First Riddle is back (Not a surprise) and now Hall will be cut if he goes 0-3 (also not a surprise).
In other news, the earth is round.
Originally posted by: Morbid Date: October 03, 2013 at 03:28 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
I dont think halls skills are the problem. I just think hes mentally weak and just doesnt have the kind of attitude you need for a fighter. It seems like he wants to win while doing the least amount of damage to his opponent. Thats a bad mentality to have as a fighter. He needs to get mean. The guy across from you isnt your friend, hes not nice, he wants to f--- you up and take money out of your pocket while pushing you down the ladder. You need to wanna kick his head off and bust him up before you choke the s--- out of him. If your goal isnt to be the best and win the title, your in the wrong sport. Hes best suited for bellator. Hes a striker, and bellator loves 2 things. Strikers and russians.
Originally posted by: Sapper Date: October 03, 2013 at 03:30 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Thak27 said:
I'll never understand the thought process behind cutting guys like Uriah Hall. Name recognition is such an important factor in promoting fights. Hall has it, and now the UFC is about to cut him?
How about developing your big name prospects and give them some leeway? That's what they do in other sports.
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f--- that.. Name recognition? The only people that know who he is are ones on this site or other MMA sites. He should have been cut after his last hug fight.
Originally posted by: Contender Date: October 03, 2013 at 03:44 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Sapper said:
In other news, the earth is round.
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Actually, that would be pretty significant news:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=earth-is-not-round
Originally posted by: Puxin Date: October 03, 2013 at 07:25 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Originally posted by: BRF Date: October 03, 2013 at 07:30 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Originally posted by: Bucho Date: October 03, 2013 at 07:46 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
In TUF he had a fortunate run which included a smaller guy in Adam Cella who matched him skills-wise until the KO moment, a mentally beaten guy in Bubba and then a semi against a clearly injured Dylan Andrews.
I picked Gastellum to beat him but would you guys listen to good science? No, too mesmerised by Dana's excited ramblings and 4,628 replays of the Cella KO to see sense.
Originally posted by: Sunfish Hero Date: October 03, 2013 at 08:01 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Bucho said:
In TUF he had a fortunate run which included a smaller guy in Adam Cella who matched him skills-wise until the KO moment, a mentally beaten guy in Bubba and then a semi against a clearly injured Dylan Andrews.
I picked Gastellum to beat him but would you guys listen to good science? No, too mesmerised by Dana's excited ramblings and 4,628 replays of the Cella KO to see sense.
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Don't get me wrong, I was rooting for Gastellum, but I'll be damned if Hall's dynamism against possibly ovrmatched opponents wasn't impressive to watch. It's hard to simply look past that kind of dominance. Also, the skill is
there!
That's why watching Hall fight is so damn frustrating!
I suppose not all of us possess your level of clairvoyance, we bow to your superior analytical skill.
Originally posted by: Reckin007 Date: October 03, 2013 at 10:04 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Thak27 said:
I'll never understand the thought process behind cutting guys like Uriah Hall. Name recognition is such an important factor in promoting fights. Hall has it, and now the UFC is about to cut him?
How about developing your big name prospects and give them some leeway? That's what they do in other sports.
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How exactly are you a "big name" going 0-3 in 3 fights? No one will care about this guy if he loses to Leben...hell I don't think many care about him now after the hug fest with Howard.
Originally posted by: Thak27 Date: October 03, 2013 at 10:24 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Reckin007 said:
How exactly are you a "big name" going 0-3 in 3 fights? No one will care about this guy if he loses to Leben...hell I don't think many care about him now after the hug fest with Howard.
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How about a little patience? Peyton Manning as a rookie was an awful QB. But the franchise stood by him and developed him. Can't you do the same with guys like Hall? At this stage in Uriah Hall's career, he shouldn't be in a "do or die" fight.
Originally posted by: Sunfish Hero Date: October 03, 2013 at 10:31 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Thak27 said:
How about a little patience? Peyton Manning as a rookie was an awful QB. But the franchise stood by him and developed him. Can't you do the same with guys like Hall? At this stage in Uriah Hall's career, he shouldn't be in a "do or die" fight.
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This isn't a team sport. You cannot compare pro athletes from two completely different sports. There is absolutely no comparison. Why should Hall get special treatment? Its not as if a boot from the UFC will end his career, he'll simply have to work his way into the UFC like everyone else who didn't come through the TUF house. 3 chances is plenty in this sport.
Originally posted by: mabrown45 Date: October 03, 2013 at 11:00 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Thak27 said:
How about a little patience? Peyton Manning as a rookie was an awful QB. But the franchise stood by him and developed him. Can't you do the same with guys like Hall? At this stage in Uriah Hall's career, he shouldn't be in a "do or die" fight.
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lol at the peyton reference.
That is just horrible.............god awful
Originally posted by: Reckin007 Date: October 03, 2013 at 11:23 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Thak27 said:
How about a little patience? Peyton Manning as a rookie was an awful QB. But the franchise stood by him and developed him. Can't you do the same with guys like Hall? At this stage in Uriah Hall's career, he shouldn't be in a "do or die" fight.
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Nope. He hasn't performed whatsoever. If he loses to Leben he's wasting a roster spot.
Originally posted by: RushFit Date: October 04, 2013 at 07:23 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
mabrown45 said:
lol at the peyton reference.
That is just horrible.............god awful
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LOL the colts had no option but to stick with with Peyton. Hall can just be gone in a second. To agree with you the reference is just dreadful.......just menacing just to say lol
Originally posted by: rhino78 Date: October 04, 2013 at 08:09 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
Sapper said:
Must be a slow week.. First Riddle is back (Not a surprise) and now Hall will be cut if he goes 0-3 (also not a surprise).
In other news, the earth is round.
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No it's not. It's flat. I'm trying to find a quick route from Spain to the India spice market.
Originally posted by: Thak27 Date: October 04, 2013 at 09:08 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
mabrown45 said:
lol at the peyton reference.
That is just horrible.............god awful
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My point is that rookies, 1st round picks, top prospects, etc.... usually should get some leeway early on in their careers.
Dana White aint so patient. He's proven time and time again that he's impulsive and has a quick trigger finger.
Uriah Hall is a naturally gifted athlete that has the tools to become great. But that's not going to happen when Dana puts pressure on him by saying "he's not a fighter" and then puts him on notice that his UFC days might be numbered. Doing things like that is not good for Uriah and is not good for the UFC.
Originally posted by: Contender Date: October 04, 2013 at 09:17 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
1. He has had two opportunities and is being given a third. That is more than enough "leeway".
2. Dana doesn't make those decisions.
3. Nor is it going to happen by gifting him opportunities.
4. Pressure is part of the job.
5. He isn't a fighter.
6. It's just fine for the UFC, plenty more where he came from and if Uriah wants to prove he has what it takes, he has to earn it just like everyone else... well... except maybe in Bellator.
Originally posted by: Sedulous Date: October 04, 2013 at 10:28 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/uriah-hall-faces-ufc-release-if-he-loses-his-next-fight.58801/
