Which Champ loses first in this situation.

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: DaTruth25
Date: February 26, 2010 at 05:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Say every single fighter fights in the same org. Which Champ and best at their weight class fighter loses 1st and has least success. Here's how I see it, looking at the next 5 challengers which would be ahead for the champs at this point. Excluding guys thet already beat:
BJ Penn-
1.AOKI
2.Edgar
3.Alverez
4.Maynard
5.Griffin Already beat: KFlo, Gomi. Honorable mention- Hansen, JZ, Melendez.
GSP-
1.Diaz
2.Shields
3.Hardy
4.Daley
5.Thaigo Already beat: Kos, Fitch, Alves. Honorable mention- AJ?
Anderson
1.Belfot
2.Sonnen
3.Philo
4.Maia
5.Lawler Already beat: Hendo, Marquardt, Cote. Honorable mention: Okami, Akiyama, Souza, Manhoef.
Machida
1.Shogun
2.Rampage
3.Mousasi
4.Lil Nog
5.Thaigo Silva Already beat: Rashad, Shogun* Honorable mention: Forrest, Vera, Couture, Jones.
Fedor
1.Brock
2.Mir
3.JDS
4.Cain
5.Overeem Already beat: AA, Rogers, Nog Honorable mentions: Werdum, Barnett, GG, Carwin.
I gotta tell ya, I think Fedors got the most challanges, Machida as well. I think it actually goes from HW all the way down to LW in order actually. Maybe GSP and BJ pretty even challanges. What you think?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: dock59
Date: February 26, 2010 at 05:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Machida already beat T. Silva too.
I would say Fedor would lose first. Sorry guys...

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: DaTruth25
Date: February 26, 2010 at 06:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

ya, my bad. Technical error.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: CPT
Date: February 26, 2010 at 06:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

I agree, it probably goes
Fedor
Machida
Silva
GSP
Penn
Kinda weird because usually the divisions get deeper as you get lower. Maybe they are, but with GSP and Penn already having picked off most of the top challengers, their next 5 don't look that tough compared to those other lineups.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: paidi
Date: February 26, 2010 at 07:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Fedor would do well to get past Lesnar and Mir I think one would catch him

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ACOGSCOPE
Date: February 26, 2010 at 07:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Fedor already lost. He isnt the champ.
So I would say Machida or Silva. Silva is due for a loss. Machida is the most vunerable.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: thabestevah
Date: February 26, 2010 at 07:38 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

I say GSP. I think either Shields or Diaz would get a win over him.
I would also put Sexyama in the no.5 spot at MW not Lawler and think he could beat Silva.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ACOGSCOPE
Date: February 26, 2010 at 07:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

killadakiller said:
I say GSP. I think either Shields or Diaz would get a win over him.
I would also put Sexyama in the no.5 spot at MW not Lawler and think he could beat Silva.
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Sexyiama doesnt belong in the top 10.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: rocklobster
Date: February 26, 2010 at 07:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

DaTruth25 said:
Anderson
1.Belfot
2.Sonnen
3.Philo
4.Maia
5.Lawler Already beat: Hendo, Marquardt, Cote. Honorable mention: Okami, Akiyama, Souza, Manhoef.
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WTF is he doing there?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: thabestevah
Date: February 26, 2010 at 07:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

ACOGSCOPE said:
killadakiller said:
I say GSP. I think either Shields or Diaz would get a win over him.
I would also put Sexyama in the no.5 spot at MW not Lawler and think he could beat Silva.
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Sexyiama doesnt belong in the top 10.
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Why? the fact he hasn't lost a fight since 2005? With wins over Manhoef, (who was wrecking Lawler before he got careless.) and Kang. (who isn't a world beater but isn't a joke either.) Sexyama is highly underated.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ACOGSCOPE
Date: February 26, 2010 at 07:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

killadakiller said:
ACOGSCOPE said:
killadakiller said:
I say GSP. I think either Shields or Diaz would get a win over him.
I would also put Sexyama in the no.5 spot at MW not Lawler and think he could beat Silva.
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Sexyiama doesnt belong in the top 10.
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Why? the fact he hasn't lost a fight since 2005? With wins over Manhoef, (who was wrecking Lawler before he got careless.) and Kang. (who isn't a world beater but isn't a joke either.) Sexyama is highly underated.
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Sexyama will be at 170 lbs before you know it. Count on that. He got murdered by Belcher.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: thabestevah
Date: February 26, 2010 at 07:53 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

ACOGSCOPE said:
Sexyama will be at 170 lbs before you know it. Count on that. He got murdered by Belcher.
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He beat Belcher. :roll:
The guy is about to beat Wandy, why would he go down a weight class after beating a legend?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: carl258
Date: February 26, 2010 at 07:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Not to be an a--hole here or posting in things that are not with me but Akiyama alredy beat Belcher

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: carl258
Date: February 26, 2010 at 08:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

On topic i think the first to lose would be Machid, the only fact that i based is because he was so close to lose alredy with Shogoun
second place would be GSP, some of those figthers are capable to catch him with another punch like serra did
Third Place would be Fedor, simple because those names are scary, i kind of think that some of those are able to find a way to win against this great figther
Fourth Place B.J.Penn, Simple because Aoki is a wizard with submisions, he is the only hope
Fifth Place Anderson silva, there is no name out there in his weight class able to win against this figther, not with a hail mary
to me right now B.J. Penn is the best p4p when there are the same weight class, in MW division there is alot of quality figthers but Anderson Silva is miles away from the rest, Fedor is the best p4p right now but the HW division, specially the UFC division is staring to make true challengers so at some point i kind to think that some of those figthers will be able to pull the upseat, GSP is like Anderson Silva WW are good figthers but he is miles away but still they can pull the upseat with a good super punch, now on Machida well he kind of let the door open with the last fight, that he can be defeated and right now LHW is maybe the best division in MMA

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ACOGSCOPE
Date: February 26, 2010 at 08:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

killadakiller said:
ACOGSCOPE said:
Sexyama will be at 170 lbs before you know it. Count on that. He got murdered by Belcher.
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He beat Belcher. :roll:
The guy is about to beat Wandy, why would he go down a weight class after beating a legend?
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He beat Belcher because MMA judges dont understand what slipping punches are. They dont understand what Belcher was doing. To them, it looked like Yama was tagging belcher when actuallity they were deflected so Belcher could hit him back. Take downs also dont help.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: DaTruth25
Date: February 26, 2010 at 08:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

ranch258 said:
On topic i think the first to lose would be Machid, the only fact that i based is because he was so close to lose alredy with Shogoun
second place would be GSP, some of those figthers are capable to catch him with another punch like serra did
Third Place would be Fedor, simple because those names are scary, i kind of think that some of those are able to find a way to win against this great figther
Fourth Place B.J.Penn, Simple because Aoki is a wizard with submisions, he is the only hope
Fifth Place Anderson silva, there is no name out there in his weight class able to win against this figther, not with a hail mary MMA
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To have GSP ahead of Fedor as far as who loses first is absolute blisfamy.... and I dont even know what blisfamy means.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Aaron_Milner
Date: February 26, 2010 at 09:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Fedor loses first. In fact, Fedor loses immediately, and never gets another title shot.
Nobody's beating Lyoto or GSP. BJ and Anderson are beatable.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Aaron_Milner
Date: February 26, 2010 at 09:22 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

DaTruth25 said:
ranch258 said:
On topic i think the first to lose would be Machid, the only fact that i based is because he was so close to lose alredy with Shogoun
second place would be GSP, some of those figthers are capable to catch him with another punch like serra did
Third Place would be Fedor, simple because those names are scary, i kind of think that some of those are able to find a way to win against this great figther
Fourth Place B.J.Penn, Simple because Aoki is a wizard with submisions, he is the only hope
Fifth Place Anderson silva, there is no name out there in his weight class able to win against this figther, not with a hail mary MMA
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To have GSP ahead of Fedor as far as who loses first is absolute blisfamy.... and I dont even know what blisfamy means.
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Anderson has been in DEEEEP water multiple times. Sonnen, Marquardt, and Vitor all have decent chances. Shogun has zero chance in their rematch, Hardy has zero chance, Fedor has zero chance against Brock, Aoki has zero chance against BJ

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: micmeraz
Date: February 26, 2010 at 09:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

rocklobster said:
DaTruth25 said:
Anderson
1.Belfot
2.Sonnen
3.Philo
4.Maia
5.Lawler Already beat: Hendo, Marquardt, Cote. Honorable mention: Okami, Akiyama, Souza, Manhoef.
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WTF is he doing there?
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He's probablu Philo's biggest fan. Just a guess.
Most likely to lose...
Fedor
Machida
GSP
Penn
Silva
DaTruth25 said:
Fedor
1.Brock
2.Mir
3.JDS
4.Cain
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LMAO! :lol: Why is Fedor in the discussion? Fedor has never fought or isn't scheduled to fight any of these top HW's. He's gonna fight Werdum.
He's not even a champion.
It should be:
Lesnar
1.Mir
2.Cain
3.JDS
4.Fedor
5.Carwin
as far as HW rankings...

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: thabestevah
Date: February 26, 2010 at 09:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

MikeMeraz said:
LMAO! :lol: Why is Fedor in the discussion? Fedor has never fought or isn't scheduled to fight any of these top HW's. He's gonna fight Werdum.
He's not even a champion.
It should be:
Lesnar
1.Mir
2.Cain
3.JDS
4.Fedor
5.Carwin
as far as HW rankings...
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He's the WAMMA champ.