Which Champ loses first in this situation.

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: micmeraz
Date: February 26, 2010 at 09:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Aaron_Milner said:
Anderson has been in DEEEEP water multiple times. Sonnen, Marquardt, and Vitor all have decent chances. Shogun has zero chance in their rematch, Hardy has zero chance, Fedor has zero chance against Brock, Aoki has zero chance against BJ
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I agree with everything except, Shogun having Zero chance against Machida. Shogun is the favorite going into that fight as far as I'm concerned.
He just has to be a little more aggressive.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Shaun
Date: February 26, 2010 at 09:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Fedor's name gets mentioned even when the discussion is about LW's :roll:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: micmeraz
Date: February 26, 2010 at 09:39 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

killadakiller said:
MikeMeraz said:
LMAO! :lol: Why is Fedor in the discussion? Fedor has never fought or isn't scheduled to fight any of these top HW's. He's gonna fight Werdum.
He's not even a champion.
It should be:
Lesnar
1.Mir
2.Cain
3.JDS
4.Fedor
5.Carwin
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He's the WAMMA champ.
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NO WAY!!
OMG! man. The WAMMA Champ? Wow. Their UFC haters and Fedor Lovers. Look at their homepage, they have nothing but Strikeforce s--- on their homepage. :roll:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: micmeraz
Date: February 26, 2010 at 09:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Shaun said:
Fedor's name gets mentioned even when the discussion is about LW's :roll:
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lol true dat

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: J_Wade
Date: February 26, 2010 at 10:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

fedor would lose first. as far as all of mma, the HW division is pretty stacked and lesnar WOULD give him problems

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: EdoKaz818
Date: February 26, 2010 at 11:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

LeLesnar is to much of a complete fighter to even have a challenge with Fedor. Crisp striking, technical leg kicks, great submissions and submission defence. Oh yea Fedor is going to get tooled by him wherever the fight is. mmhmmm
Lets not forget how Machida dominated Rua in there fight. So no chance Rua can win the fight next time.
As for A.S. hes fought all kinds of fighters. The best of the best. I mean Cote and Leites compared to the other MW's like Sonnen, Hendo and Marquardt who happen to be wreslter oddly. Yea AS will never lose since cans like Hendo, Marquardt and all arnt even top fighters anymore.
BJ is going to lose to Aoki of course and Edgar. Because you know BJ cant handle Aokies stand up and Edgar's T-rex like reech advantage.
GSP is just horrible

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Shaun
Date: February 27, 2010 at 01:20 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

EdoKaz818 said:
LeLesnar is to much of a complete fighter to even have a challenge with Fedor. Crisp striking, technical leg kicks, great submissions and submission defence. Oh yea Fedor is going to get tooled by him wherever the fight is. mmhmmm
Lets not forget how Machida dominated Rua in there fight. So no chance Rua can win the fight next time.
As for A.S. hes fought all kinds of fighters. The best of the best. I mean Cote and Leites compared to the other MW's like Sonnen, Hendo and Marquardt who happen to be wreslter oddly. Yea AS will never lose since cans like Hendo, Marquardt and all arnt even top fighters anymore.
BJ is going to lose to Aoki of course and Edgar. Because you know BJ cant handle Aokies stand up and Edgar's T-rex like reech advantage.
GSP is just horrible
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U pretty much sum'd it up :lol:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: DaTruth25
Date: February 27, 2010 at 02:27 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Shaun said:
EdoKaz818 said:
LeLesnar is to much of a complete fighter to even have a challenge with Fedor. Crisp striking, technical leg kicks, great submissions and submission defence. Oh yea Fedor is going to get tooled by him wherever the fight is. mmhmmm
Lets not forget how Machida dominated Rua in there fight. So no chance Rua can win the fight next time.
As for A.S. hes fought all kinds of fighters. The best of the best. I mean Cote and Leites compared to the other MW's like Sonnen, Hendo and Marquardt who happen to be wreslter oddly. Yea AS will never lose since cans like Hendo, Marquardt and all arnt even top fighters anymore.
BJ is going to lose to Aoki of course and Edgar. Because you know BJ cant handle Aokies stand up and Edgar's T-rex like reech advantage.
GSP is just horrible
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U pretty much sum'd it up :lol:
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Summed it up? I didnt understand a word foo was talking about. :?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Dan_C
Date: February 27, 2010 at 03:21 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Machida will be the one to lose first, not only in this hypothetical situation here but in reality as he is fighting the #2 guy this summer and will lose to him. The only other one that would have the possibility to lose is Fedor, the rest of them would still crush all the other fighters in these new divisions.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: WhoDat
Date: February 27, 2010 at 09:43 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

ACOGSCOPE said:
killadakiller said:
ACOGSCOPE said:
Sexyama will be at 170 lbs before you know it. Count on that. He got murdered by Belcher.
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He beat Belcher. :roll:
The guy is about to beat Wandy, why would he go down a weight class after beating a legend?
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He beat Belcher because MMA judges dont understand what slipping punches are. They dont understand what Belcher was doing. To them, it looked like Yama was tagging belcher when actuallity they were deflected so Belcher could hit him back. Take downs also dont help.
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Man, that statement is so
Arrogant!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: J_Wade
Date: February 27, 2010 at 10:26 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

MikeMeraz said:
rocklobster said:
DaTruth25 said:
Anderson
1.Belfot
2.Sonnen
3.Philo
4.Maia
5.Lawler Already beat: Hendo, Marquardt, Cote. Honorable mention: Okami, Akiyama, Souza, Manhoef.
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WTF is he doing there?
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He's probablu Philo's biggest fan. Just a guess.
Most likely to lose...
Fedor
Machida
GSP
Penn
Silva
DaTruth25 said:
Fedor
1.Brock
2.Mir
3.JDS
4.Cain
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LMAO! :lol: Why is Fedor in the discussion? Fedor has never fought or isn't scheduled to fight any of these top HW's. He's gonna fight Werdum.
He's not even a champion.
It should be:
Lesnar
1.Mir
2.Cain
3.JDS
4.Fedor
5.Carwin
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dont push it with that last part. fedor is the king of the HWs until he loses. nothing can change that

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: mmafanatic
Date: February 27, 2010 at 10:39 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

J_Wade said:
dont push it with that last part. fedor is the king of the HWs until he loses. nothing can change that
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I'm as big a Fedor fan as all the rest, but I'd have to disagree with that statement. IF Brock Lesnar were to defeat the Mir/Carwin winner and Velasquez, he'd be the number 1 HW in the world IMO. Big IF of course.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: carl258
Date: February 27, 2010 at 10:54 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

WhoDat said:
ACOGSCOPE said:
killadakiller said:
Sexyama will be at 170 lbs before you know it. Count on that. He got murdered by Belcher.
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He beat Belcher. :roll:
The guy is about to beat Wandy, why would he go down a weight class after beating a legend?
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He beat Belcher because MMA judges dont understand what slipping punches are. They dont understand what Belcher was doing. To them, it looked like Yama was tagging belcher when actuallity they were deflected so Belcher could hit him back. Take downs also dont help.
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Man, that statement is so
Arrogant!
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exactly, not to mention that alot of people and MMA analyst in that fight was very stuned on why one judge got the fight to Belcher since it has to be a unanimous decision for Seyama

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: J_Wade
Date: February 27, 2010 at 11:07 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

mmafanatic said:
J_Wade said:
dont push it with that last part. fedor is the king of the HWs until he loses. nothing can change that
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I'm as big a Fedor fan as all the rest, but I'd have to disagree with that statement. IF Brock Lesnar were to defeat the Mir/Carwin winner and Velasquez, he'd be the number 1 HW in the world IMO. Big IF of course.
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because of fedor's history, i cant put another HW in front of him UNLESS (1) fedor loses (2) fedor fails to impress me in multiple fights (3) brock cleans out the UFC HW division.
i am a big brock fan, but to surpass fedor, he needs to prove to me that he can match fedor's dominance

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Aetherial
Date: February 27, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

I could see a potential loss for Machida, Silva, or Fedor.
Barring an absolute, total, mind-blowing miraculous chain of events, I do not see any of the Penn or GSP contenders even coming close.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Panther78
Date: February 27, 2010 at 01:38 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Fedor would lose first.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: EdoKaz818
Date: February 27, 2010 at 01:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

DaTruth25 said:
Shaun said:
EdoKaz818 said:
LeLesnar is to much of a complete fighter to even have a challenge with Fedor. Crisp striking, technical leg kicks, great submissions and submission defence. Oh yea Fedor is going to get tooled by him wherever the fight is. mmhmmm
Lets not forget how Machida dominated Rua in there fight. So no chance Rua can win the fight next time.
As for A.S. hes fought all kinds of fighters. The best of the best. I mean Cote and Leites compared to the other MW's like Sonnen, Hendo and Marquardt who happen to be wreslter oddly. Yea AS will never lose since cans like Hendo, Marquardt and all arnt even top fighters anymore.
BJ is going to lose to Aoki of course and Edgar. Because you know BJ cant handle Aokies stand up and Edgar's T-rex like reech advantage.
GSP is just horrible
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U pretty much sum'd it up :lol:
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Summed it up? I didnt understand a word foo was talking about. :?
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Well if he understands it and I understand and yet you dont understand it then there is something wrong on your end. I only see 1 part there that is hard to understand ,& about al foo.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: thabestevah
Date: February 28, 2010 at 05:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

ACOGSCOPE said:
killadakiller said:
ACOGSCOPE said:
Sexyama will be at 170 lbs before you know it. Count on that. He got murdered by Belcher.
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He beat Belcher. :roll:
The guy is about to beat Wandy, why would he go down a weight class after beating a legend?
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He beat Belcher because MMA judges dont understand what slipping punches are. They dont understand what Belcher was doing. To them, it looked like Yama was tagging belcher when actuallity they were deflected so Belcher could hit him back. Take downs also dont help.
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Dude Sexyama clearly won that fight. I just rewatched it because of what you said. I'm sorry but your head doesn't snap back when you slip punches. The only guy slipping punches that fight was Akiyama and he slipped quite a few. The first round he out struke Belcher, and in the second over half the round was spent on the ground with Akiyama on top then the striking was basically even, then belcher took the third. That is a win for Akiyama. Joe Rogan is a complete moron for saying Belcher got robbed. If Belcher slipped the punches so he could land why were most of the exchanges ended with a Akiyama punch not Belcher? Belcher lost and, so will Wandy when he fights Sexyama.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fedor_is_god
Date: February 28, 2010 at 09:26 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Aaron_Milner said:
Fedor loses first. In fact, Fedor loses immediately, and never gets another title shot.
Nobody's beating Lyoto or GSP. BJ and Anderson are beatable.
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Yeah, Fedor would probably go 0 for 6 in the UFC, then get released from his contract. Even Struve would beat him.
Thanks for pointing this out, Dana, er, Aaron.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Shaun
Date: March 01, 2010 at 06:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/which-champ-loses-first-in-this-situation.22899/

Aaron_Milner said:
Fedor loses first. In fact, Fedor loses immediately, and never gets another title shot.
Nobody's beating Lyoto or GSP. BJ and Anderson are beatable.
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I'd say BJ and Anderson r just as less likely to lose as Lyoto and GSP.....unless of coarse AS fights Belfort