Who do you think is NOT taking PED's?
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Fedor Emelianenko
Anderson Silva
BJ Penn
Frankie Edgar
Matt Serra
Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch
They just seem like they love the competition, have 100% natural self belief and don't need that needle to help them win.
Funny that the top 3 are some of the greatest of all time and got there by not using PEDs. Whereas some guys that are getting caught these days are average fighters, those things we refer to as performance enhancers could be hurting their performance. Look at the best fight Chris Leben had, it was against Akiyama at 116, taken on 2 weeks notice, no time to be taking anything in between the fights or he would get caught 100% so he just rolls with what he has got and it works.
darcebandit said:
They just seem like they love the competition, have 100% natural self belief and don't need that needle to help them win.
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I was actually going to say that about GSP. He comes across as someone who believes in the purity of martial arts. I know he's been accused of it by a few people and he certainly looks damn buff, especially in his last fight, but I'd like to believe that he's clean.
darcebandit said:
Funny that the top 3 are some of the greatest of all time and got there by not using PEDs. Whereas some guys that are getting caught these days are average fighters, those things we refer to as performance enhancers could be hurting their performance. Look at the best fight Chris Leben had, it was against Akiyama at 116, taken on 2 weeks notice, no time to be taking anything in between the fights or he would get caught 100% so he just rolls with what he has got and it works.
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This actually plays into my opinion of why fighters take PED's. A lack of self-belief and basic insecurities. But I won't digress as I'd like to keep this on topic.
Anyone who is Hawaiian, vegan, or chubby isn't. I believe every champion (ya, I think even GSP is probably doing something, though I don't think it's roids) and every Brazilian is though. Another good indicator is anyone who has improved drastically. (Dos Anjos) I honestly don't think you can reach the top of the sport without them.
Knippz said:
I don't think Anderson is on PEDs. He lets his body weight fluctuate too much and only is in top shape for a couple weeks if that. I'm sure they all take some sort of supplements though.
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I think Anderson is definitely on PEDs. I don't think he's taking anything for weight loss or muscle gain or anything but I would not at all be surprised if he was on an endurance PED of some kind that isn't tested for.
Most of the names listed I would agree. Most seem unlikely, but who knows. In all reality, I don't care all that much who does or doesn't do steroids. How many times do I hear about said fighter using steroids, but lost his fight and looked like s---. I don't necessarily agree that it gives you this huge advantage. It seems that more often than not, it's the guy that are trying to elevate themselves to the next level that are looking for the advantage. In Palharas' caes, I'm not sure what he was busted for, but he was pretty banged up coming into the fight and was probably trying hard to heal up as fast as possible. Regardless, it's too hard to guess how many fighters use steroids, I'd imagine the number is pretty high. When there is that much potential money on the line, steroids will always be involved(just like for all major sports).
coreymb said:
Most of the names listed I would agree. Most seem unlikely, but who knows. In all reality, I don't care all that much who does or doesn't do steroids. How many times do I hear about said fighter using steroids, but lost his fight and looked like s---. I don't necessarily agree that it gives you this huge advantage. It seems that more often than not, it's the guy that are trying to elevate themselves to the next level that are looking for the advantage. In Palharas' caes, I'm not sure what he was busted for, but he was pretty banged up coming into the fight and was probably trying hard to heal up as fast as possible. Regardless, it's too hard to guess how many fighters use steroids, I'd imagine the number is pretty high. When there is that much potential money on the line, steroids will always be involved(just like for all major sports).
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Dude, it says in the article that Palhares was busted for high testosterone levels, NOT steroids. Beltrain was busted for steroids.
Sedulous said:
I think Anderson is definitely on PEDs. I don't think he's taking anything for weight loss or muscle gain or anything but I would not at all be surprised if he was on an endurance PED of some kind that isn't tested for.
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If it isn't tested for, then how is it an illegal PED?
Unless I'm misunderstanding the original question from the OP....