Originally posted by: smartigan Date: January 11, 2013 at 02:39 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
Originally posted by: coreymb Date: January 11, 2013 at 02:40 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
MrClean502 said:
Dude, it says in the article that Palhares was busted for high testosterone levels, NOT steroids. Beltrain was busted for steroids.
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Like I said, I didn't know what he was busted for, I didn't read the article, so calm down. BTW-You are aware that testosterone plays a vital role in healing faster and it is a steroid hormone, right?
*meant didn't know what he tested for specifically
MrClean502 said:
Dude, it says in the article that Palhares was busted for high testosterone levels, NOT steroids. Beltrain was busted for steroids.
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Testosterone is a steroid.
Originally posted by: Fight Magnet Date: January 11, 2013 at 02:58 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
Originally posted by: MrClean502 Date: January 11, 2013 at 03:08 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
Originally posted by: noobMMAfan Date: January 11, 2013 at 03:10 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
I don't give anyone a pass thesedays, really. Just when you say "Oh, I think this guy's clean. No way HE'S juicing," they get popped. And it's not only guys like 'Reem and Paul Harris. Bonnar and other similarly mediocre fighters get popped constantly. I just assume they all are, that way I'm not disappointed when they get popped.
Originally posted by: MMAFTM13 Date: January 11, 2013 at 03:12 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
MrClean502 said:
If thats the case, then why don't they just say that both fighters tested positive for steroids? Why differentiate between the two?
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Full disclosure to the public(maybe)..You're right though it shouldn't matter.
MrClean502 said:
If thats the case, then why don't they just say that both fighters tested positive for steroids? Why differentiate between the two?
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Because they're different steroids. It's not particularly unusual for the specific steroid to be mentioned when drugs test failures are revealed.
Originally posted by: Fight Magnet Date: January 11, 2013 at 03:16 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
MrClean502 said:
If thats the case, then why don't they just say that both fighters tested positive for steroids? Why differentiate between the two?
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They're differentiating between the two, because like you were correctly inferring, Palhares wasn't busted for a banned steroid.
Originally posted by: darcebandit Date: January 11, 2013 at 03:24 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
Sedulous said:
Anyone who is Hawaiian, vegan, or
chubby
isn't. I believe every champion (ya, I think even GSP is probably doing something, though I don't think it's roids) and every Brazilian is though. Another good indicator is anyone who has improved drastically. (Dos Anjos) I honestly don't think you can reach the top of the sport without them.
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Joey Beltran ended this one for us.
Originally posted by: darcebandit Date: January 11, 2013 at 03:29 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
Originally posted by: TheCompany Date: January 11, 2013 at 03:39 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
Mark Hunt
But i really don't care about PED's in MMA right now. Fighters like Overeem and Cyborg get alot of unwarranted hate because they look big. Everybody is discreting there past and future results because they test possitive for PED's.
Belfort was also caught on roids and alot of fighters are on TRT, even fighters like Royce Gracie, Beltran and Sylvia were caught on PED's. Nobody is discreting their performences in the ring/cage.
Originally posted by: MMAFTM13 Date: January 11, 2013 at 03:41 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
British olympian Jessica Ennis said that she gets tested anytime,the testers come to her house when she's not expecting it and has to have a blood and urine test there and then..If the commission keeps there word of random testing then I think they should do the same to each fighter and just show up anytime(even if there injured),that way we'll have no fighter that is cycling and beating the system..
I just don't believe that MOST fighters are clean..There'll be more to follow guaranteed.
Originally posted by: darcebandit Date: January 11, 2013 at 04:10 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
MMAFTM13 said:
British olympian Jessica Ennis said that she gets tested anytime,the testers come to her house when she's not expecting it and has to have a blood and urine test there and then..If the commission keeps there word of random testing then I think they should do the same to each fighter and just show up anytime(even if there injured),that way we'll have no fighter that is cycling and beating the system..
I just don't believe that MOST fighters are clean..There'll be more to follow guaranteed.
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Conte said a lot about that too, if they turn up and you don't want to give a sample then that's fine, I think you can do that twice in an 18 month period. So if you are pissing hot and they turn up, you can send them away and it's ok, in fact you can do that one more time.
Or do what Serena Williams did and go into the panic room and call the police.
Originally posted by: BrainBT Date: January 11, 2013 at 04:25 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
MMAFTM13 said:
British olympian Jessica Ennis said that she gets tested anytime,the testers come to her house when she's not expecting it and has to have a blood and urine test there and then..If the commission keeps there word of random testing then I think they should do the same to each fighter and just show up anytime(even if there injured),that way we'll have no fighter that is cycling and beating the system..
I just don't believe that MOST fighters are clean..There'll be more to follow guaranteed.
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The commissions can't afford to do that, especially with so many fighters.
Originally posted by: BrainBT Date: January 11, 2013 at 04:34 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
I see this like cancer detection nowadays.
100 years ago you died because of a cancer, and you just "died".
Now technology brings us the methods to know the causes of death.
So are now more fighters on peds? Or they are simply busted because of better detection methods?
Originally posted by: pridefighter27 Date: January 11, 2013 at 04:40 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
Originally posted by: MrClean502 Date: January 11, 2013 at 04:44 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
Originally posted by: pridefighter27 Date: January 11, 2013 at 05:02 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/who-do-you-think-is-not-taking-peds.50831/
MrClean502 said:
Barnett is/was pretty chubby and hes been caught multiple times.
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You bring up a really good point! Barnett doesn't really strike you as someone who uses PED's, but he has failed tests in the past.
