Why is the UFC's communication so terrible?

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Originally posted by: thedoop
Date: January 13, 2015 at 08:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

We've had countless examples...time and time again they never fail to disappoint
if there's something that needs handling, the UFC will do it in the worst way possible
- Not notifying fighters of opponent change (happened multiple times, most recently Henderson being notified he's fighting Cerrone...VIA TEXT BY CERRONE)
- Not notifying fighters the size of the cage they will compete in
- Not notifying fighters when they're fighting, they have to rely on media to find out if they're ME or FP prelims
- Giving / taking away title shots willy nilly
- the changing stance on regulation
is it really that difficult for someone in the UFC to notify the fighter or his management? I find it a little ridiculous
I can keep going with a few examples but I have to go buy groceries before the supermarket closes
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: January 13, 2015 at 09:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

Is it the UFC's fault that the fighter's management doesn't notify them in time or that Cerrone just so happened to be told first?
Also, more recently, Rory was the one who first posted that he wasn't getting the title shot.
Keep reaching for more overblown non-issues.
 
Originally posted by: thedoop
Date: January 13, 2015 at 09:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

Reckin007 said:
Is it the UFC's fault that the fighter's management doesn't notify them in time or that Cerrone just so happened to be told first?
Also, more recently, Rory was the one who first posted that he wasn't getting the title shot.
Keep reaching for more overblown non-issues.
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if I keep talking about maybe it'll become an issue
who knows
 
Originally posted by: MysterLynch
Date: January 13, 2015 at 10:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

Reckin007 said:
Is it the UFC's fault that the fighter's management doesn't notify them in time or that Cerrone just so happened to be told first?
Also, more recently, Rory was the one who first posted that he wasn't getting the title shot.
Keep reaching for more overblown non-issues.
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Fighters, or at least their management, is informed of fight changes as the fight agreements have to be changed. Now a fighter that has been offered a fight may say something before it is actually signed, that may be what happened with Cerrone, I don't know.
As far as telling fighters WHEN they are fighting, it is in the fight agreement that the fighter has signed. So any fighter that says he did not know he was fighting is either on drugs or has brain damage....or his manager is forging his signature.
 
Originally posted by: Sapper
Date: January 13, 2015 at 10:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

thedoop said:
We've had countless examples...time and time again they never fail to disappoint
if there's something that needs handling, the UFC will do it in the worst way possible
- Not notifying fighters of opponent change (happened multiple times, most recently Henderson being notified he's fighting Cerrone...VIA TEXT BY CERRONE)
- Not notifying fighters the size of the cage they will compete in
- Not notifying fighters when they're fighting, they have to rely on media to find out if they're ME or FP prelims
- Giving / taking away title shots willy nilly
- the changing stance on regulation
is it really that difficult for someone in the UFC to notify the fighter or his management? I find it a little ridiculous
I can keep going with a few examples but I have to go buy groceries before the supermarket closes
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You do know that fighters sign a contract to fight right? It's a contract within their bigger UFC contract. The UFC can't just say... Guess what fighter X, your fighting fighter Y... Wait, fighter Y got hurt, now your fighting fighter W. Both fighters have to agree and sign the bout agreement. Hell, even when a fighter misses weight they have to sign a new bout agreement. Benson hearing about fighting Cowboy is a matter of circumstance, and Cowboy talking s---.
I'm with you on the cage size, I wish they would always give advance notice when using the smaller cage.
I don't think fighters rely on the media about when they are on a card. The ones that say they do... Probably need better management.
On title shots... I wish they would just STFU about who gets the next shot when.... Let the media speculate and let the fighters fight. Nothing is a better recipe then a boring fight when both fkghters are told winner gets a title shot... Beyond that, the UFC can and does say what they want... Don't forget the UFC is more than a MMA organization, they are a fight promotion business first and for most.
As far as I have ever really heard the UFC has had the same stance on regulation.... They don't, the AC do and they fall inline with what they want.
Over all your points are nothing new, and things people have always bitched about with the UFC. I stopped really listening to what DW says a long time ago. He is an entertaining figure, and that's about it... When he says such and such is going to happen, I never take it that it will until it does. Dana has said a lot of s--- will or will not happen, and had them to not be true. Or he has changed his mind, and I don't have issues with people who change their minds.
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: January 13, 2015 at 10:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

MysterLynch said:
Fighters, or at least their management, is informed of fight changes as the fight agreements have to be changed. Now a fighter that has been offered a fight may say something before it is actually signed, that may be what happened with Cerrone, I don't know.
As far as telling fighters WHEN they are fighting, it is in the fight agreement that the fighter has signed. So any fighter that says he did not know he was fighting is either on drugs or has brain damage....or his manager is forging his signature.
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Wait.........fighters lie? Say it ain't so. Only the UFC lies.
 
Originally posted by: nate1986
Date: January 13, 2015 at 10:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

i do agree that they need to quit saying "oh yea if so and so wins he gets the next title shot" just like it was stated Conor McGregor and Anderson Silva are "next in line" with a win, more so with Silva they should say "he may get the next title shot depending how Weidman/Belfort plays out"
 
Originally posted by: cobra_punch
Date: January 13, 2015 at 10:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

They're commentary is so terrible because they have employed the likes of Anik and Florian for Said Position.
 
Originally posted by: Spidy
Date: January 13, 2015 at 11:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

nate1986 said:
they should say "he may get the next title shot depending how Weidman/Belfort plays out"
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I'd be perfectly fine with that statement. Vitor/Silva 2 ? I get that. AS/CW? Shouldn't happen. Yet
Stating the obvious if Conor wins. Otherwise they would have just made Frankie/Cub an official title eliminator instead of just promising Cub a shot w/ win.
 
Originally posted by: NYR30
Date: January 13, 2015 at 11:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

Lol as soon as I read the title of this thread I knew reckin would be in here defending the UFC
 
Originally posted by: redd1
Date: January 13, 2015 at 11:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

And personally I think a lot of time the fans take things that are said off the cuff or just as a thought and turn it into gospel. Aka Dana saying that someone fighting for the belt next with a win makes sense becomes so and so guaranteed a title shot. Yes maybe UFC officials should play stuff closer to there chest until everything is set in stone but I kind of like the fact that they tend to answer as humans a lot of the time instead of corporate drones.
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: January 13, 2015 at 11:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

NYR30 said:
Lol as soon as I read the title of this thread I knew reckin would be in here defending the UFC
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What exactly am I defending? The fact is these guys aren't just magically thrown into fights. They know everything happening. As for title shots I don't disagree that there has to be a better way of giving them out but that has nothing to do with communication.
 
Originally posted by: NYR30
Date: January 14, 2015 at 12:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

You're defending the UFC. Like you always do. Doesn't matter what accusation it is. Not saying it's a bad thing, it's just the truth.
 
Originally posted by: cobra_punch
Date: January 14, 2015 at 12:08 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

Reckin007 said:
What exactly am I defending? The fact is these guys aren't just magically thrown into fights. They know everything happening. As for title shots I don't disagree that there has to be a better way of giving them out but that has nothing to do with communication.
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there goes that go ddamn double negative again.
 
Originally posted by: cobra_punch
Date: January 14, 2015 at 12:10 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

"As for title shots, I agree that there has to be a better way of giving them out..."
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: January 14, 2015 at 12:13 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

NYR30 said:
You're defending the UFC. Like you always do. Doesn't matter what accusation it is. Not saying it's a bad thing, it's just the truth.
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I'm not defending anything, simply stating facts. Should I just agree with inaccurate statements because it would be too pro-UFC otherwise? Just because I don't bash the UFC every chance I get over mundane things certainly doesn't mean I haven't had my fair share of grievances over the years. This however is just a weird thing to be disappointed about considering it's an inaccurate assessment of the UFC's communication with fighters and only looking at one side of the story. If the UFC could just make up fights without notifying fighters we'd be seeing GSP vs MacDonald, DC vs Cain, or Fitch vs Koscheck.
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: January 14, 2015 at 12:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

cobra_punch said:
there goes that go ddamn double negative again.
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Yeah I'm emphasizing the negative. While there could be some changes to it I still like the idea that any fighter can get an incredible opportunity anytime and we're not always stuck with a predetermined formula. It's about matchup and timing. So while I somewhat agree, I don't fully agree, hence I don't disagree.
 
Originally posted by: thedoop
Date: January 14, 2015 at 12:28 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

Successful thread is successful, good night Junkies.
 
Originally posted by: ChrisminaL
Date: January 14, 2015 at 04:22 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

In any business: Nothing is sure until written and signed.
This is a showbusiness, they have to say things to keep us tuned and they need to have "news" everyday - so, sometimes they just say "okay, if this happens, that what's happens next", but these are only words. It should be considered as options, or even rumors until signed.
 
Originally posted by: Spud
Date: January 14, 2015 at 05:29 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/why-is-the-ufcs-communication-so-terrible.65144/

Reckin007 said:
Is it the UFC's fault that the fighter's management doesn't notify them in time or that Cerrone just so happened to be told first?
Also, more recently, Rory was the one who first posted that he wasn't getting the title shot.
Keep reaching for more overblown non-issues.
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According to Bendo, his management wasn't told either.
 
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