Why is the UFC's communication so terrible?
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Spud said:
If the UFC announce a fight before a fighter has agreed, it puts pressure on the fighter to accept it. If he doesn't, fans start bitching about how he's scared etc.
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There's no way this happens. There has to be some kind of mutual agreement, even verbal, that this fight is going to happen. I think fans are starting to believe fighters a little too much.
Reckin007 said:
There's no way this happens. There has to be some kind of mutual agreement, even verbal, that this fight is going to happen. I think fans are starting to believe fighters a little too much.
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According to Benson, neither he nor his trainers or management had been contacted about the Cerrone fight before it was announced. Obviously he has to actually sign a bout agreement before it happens, but the UFC can announce it & put pressure on him to accept it. There's really no reason why Ben would say that just for kicks, he's not going to make up a lie like that for no reason.
Spud said:
If the UFC announce a fight before a fighter has agreed, it puts pressure on the fighter to accept it. If he doesn't, fans start bitching about how he's scared etc.
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For sure this is a tactic the UFC uses, and we have seen it many time...
Reckin007 said:
There's no way this happens. There has to be some kind of mutual agreement, even verbal, that this fight is going to happen. I think fans are starting to believe fighters a little too much.
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????? You really believe that? Cowboy and Benson aside we have seen the UFC do this many times. Nate Diaz, Meathead, Melendez, hell we even saw it with Bibiano Fernandes before he even had a UFC contract signed and in hand. If you can't recall all the times the UFC has leaked a fight, then your driving with blinders on. They use this tactic all the time. In some cases I can see that it could be one of the two fighters making it public before anything is official ( as I believe is the case with Cowboy vs Benson), but the UFC does push fights this way.
NYR30 said:
Kinda like being a d--- and trolling people is what you always do?
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Aww, if I did it always you'd have a point, oh butthurt one. I restrict it to clowns and people who can chuckle at themselves.
But your perception, meh, I've seen it. It and truth, typically not related by much. Not my fault that opinion bothers you.
I think the behind the scenes world of MMA is chaotic as f---. Putting on a show is probably like herding coked up, steroid abusing, feral cats 48 times a year.
I also think that the UFC is consistently spinning, suppressing, and lying about things that make a few cocaine metabolites seem very benign. Dana has probably secretly buried more dead girls and payed off more live boys than the Republican Party.
Instead of assuming the UFC is doing a s--- job, assume they are doing a fantastic job with the resources they have and the problems they are facing. I picture the behind the scenes world of the UFC is like a Martin Scorsese movie.
Is it true? None of us knows. My way of viewing it is very fun though.
I do think it shows some communications issue but there are also a lot of circumstances due to social media. Often times now in other sports as well people will find out they were fired or released through twitter or espn because their management team hasn't had the time to inform them of their decision but a news outlet or insider gets a hold of the information and they will spread it in 2 seconds
thedoop said:
like I said in OP, this whole opponent change on late notice without informing the fighter / management happens OFTEN.
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The fighter himself still has to agree to the fight regardless of the circumstances leading up to the circumstances
Spidy said:
The fighter himself still has to agree to the fight regardless of the circumstances leading up to the circumstances
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yes but it puts pressure on the fighter to accept a fight
he might've accepted anyways if you came to him....but instead the UFC uses bully tactics where they announce to the media "hey, fighter X is now fighting fighter Z" then they go to them with a contract, that's backwards.
thedoop said:
yes but it puts pressure on the fighter to accept a fight
he might've accepted anyways if you came to him....but instead the UFC uses bully tactics where they announce to the media "hey, fighter X is now fighting fighter Z" then they go to them with a contract, that's backwards.
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Maybe. But in this particular circumstance, Benson needed an opponent, Cowboy stepped up on ridiculously short notice. All things considered, Benson should be thrilled with the potential to get right back in the mix after the RDA drubbing. That and he's got 2 wins, one extremely close, (what's new?) and one dominant. I would think he's happy with the way things panned out
Spidy said:
Maybe. But in this particular circumstance, Benson needed an opponent, Cowboy stepped up on ridiculously short notice. All things considered, Benson should be thrilled with the potential to get right back in the mix after the RDA drubbing. That and he's got 2 wins, one extremely close, (what's new?) and one dominant. I would think he's happy with the way things panned out
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Whether he's happy or not doesn't change the fact that it's a shitty thing to do. You know what else he'd have been happy with, the UFC coming to him with the offer before it was announced.
Spidy said:
Maybe. But in this particular circumstance, Benson needed an opponent, Cowboy stepped up on ridiculously short notice. All things considered, Benson should be thrilled with the potential to get right back in the mix after the RDA drubbing. That and he's got 2 wins, one extremely close, (what's new?) and one dominant. I would think he's happy with the way things panned out
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I'm not arguing he should or shouldn't be happy, this is just one case of many. It's the principle, the professionalism, that's what's missing.
Remember the whole Chael Jones thing? late notice, the UFC announces the fight as if it's set...and we all know how that turned out
fighters have mentioned this stuff on twitter before, I see it from time to time on my timeline so it's not uncommon.