"You can't win a fight by just kicking someone in the legs."
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well seeing how the judging criteria includes, "effective striking"; i would say that making your opponent swich stances away from his pounded leg and leaving visible damage to the leg would be considered effective striking... so yeah... you can win a fight just by kicking someone in the leg... Soares = Fail...
Effective striking = Shogun
Effective grappleing= Machida for the TD stuffs I could agree with
Aggressiveness= Shogun
Octogon Control= shogun/machida- either way, Shogun was fighting his fight but Machida again stuffed some TD's- I got Shogun however because I see what he did fighting his fight bigger than a few stuffed half hearted TD's from Shogun.
Not in the rules but Damage is something you cannot overlook. Shogun could have fought another 5 rounder and Machida was done in the 4th. I like Diaz's rule where he says whoever looks like they have more in them at the end of the fight is the winner if it goes to the cards.
DaTruth25 said:
Octogon Control= shogun/machida- either way, Shogun was fighting his fight but Machida again stuffed some TD's- I got Shogun however because I see what he did fighting his fight bigger than a few stuffed half hearted TD's from Shogun.
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Octagon Control goes to Shogun. He was advancing much much more, and alot of those "failed" takedown attempts turned into a coture-esque Press n' Pray coupled with knees...
OMG_its_DFM said:
DaTruth25 said:
Octogon Control= shogun/machida- either way, Shogun was fighting his fight but Machida again stuffed some TD's- I got Shogun however because I see what he did fighting his fight bigger than a few stuffed half hearted TD's from Shogun.
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Octagon Control goes to Shogun. He was advancing much much more, and alot of those "failed" takedown attempts turned into a coture-esque Press n' Pray coupled with knees...
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i gave octogon control to Shogun like I said. I was just looking for a reason somehow for a judge to give it to MAchida, and all he did was stuff some TD's for the case, which I said, I didnt think was enough.
DaTruth25 said:
OMG_its_DFM said:
DaTruth25 said:
Octogon Control= shogun/machida- either way, Shogun was fighting his fight but Machida again stuffed some TD's- I got Shogun however because I see what he did fighting his fight bigger than a few stuffed half hearted TD's from Shogun.
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Octagon Control goes to Shogun. He was advancing much much more, and alot of those "failed" takedown attempts turned into a coture-esque Press n' Pray coupled with knees...
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i gave octogon control to Shogun like I said. I was just looking for a reason somehow for a judge to give it to MAchida, and all he did was stuff some TD's for the case, which I said, I didnt think was enough.
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i was agreeing with ya...
Octagon control goes to Machida. He decided when and where every exchange took place. Shogun wasn't able to corner him and force him to exchange where he didn't want to. I think too many people are under the impression that moving forward means you're in control.
JonnyF said:
There's a huge difference between Aldo's leg kicks against Faber and Shogun's against Machida. If Shogun was landing clean, effective leg kicks, Machida would have been in in worse condition than Faber.
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yeah, faber likes to show to the world how bad he got his *** kicked, Machida doesnt... Dana said (i think it was dana) that machida was the last one to left the post fight conferece to avoid ppl see him not being able to walk straight (not the exact words, something like that)... He was bearly walking out of the cage by himself...MAchidas leg were just as beat up as fabers were... the only difference is that faber took pictures of them and put them on the net...
bjj_rage said:
JonnyF said:
There's a huge difference between Aldo's leg kicks against Faber and Shogun's against Machida. If Shogun was landing clean, effective leg kicks, Machida would have been in in worse condition than Faber.
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yeah, faber likes to show to the world how bad he got his *** kicked, Machida doesnt... Dana said (i think it was dana) that machida was the last one to left the post fight conferece to avoid ppl see him not being able to walk straight (not the exact words, something like that)... He was bearly walking out of the cage by himself...MAchidas leg were just as beat up as fabers were... the only difference is that faber took pictures of them and put them on the net...
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Why didn't Shogun drop Machida with any of the leg kicks? Post fight means nothing. While in the ring, Machida's leg didn't effect his game nearly as much as Faber's did. Even with Machida's damaged leg, Shogun wasn't able to corner him.
I watched parts of the countdown today between Bellator fights. I liked the part where Machida said he didnt really feel Shoguns kicks, then a minute later said he had problems moving because his legs wouldnt work right.
I want to see both Kimbo and Shogun win. I think both of them are being underrated in this card.
he said he didnt feel the kicks to the body not that he didnt feel any kicks....and did you also like how it showed that lyoto was landing twice everytime shogun landed one of his strikes during the first three rounds...almost sweeping him on multiple occasions?