That was the shittiest argument I have ever heard. Everyone in this room is significantly more retarded from listening to that. I give your autistic, inarticulate reply a 0/10, and may DWD have mercy on your soul.
Triple M Junkie Idol Game thread
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ABB
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I love being a 1-man sperm bank
ABB
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both you clowns needa run across the desert dodging sandworms
Rhino78
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Your whole argument is dumb.
"In the real world ". Light sabers do not exist in the real world, therefore, the only way we've seen this particular sword work is in a fictional movie and it does not hurt him.Therefore your argument is wrong.
cmvideo75
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Plus those little side sabers make it easier to light a doobie
Jeez, man, you and @HKOG have more in common than I realized.
I'm aware it's a make believe movie, little guy. But:
Enjoy the peanut gallery with ABB
thedarkwingduck2k11
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Category 3- MMA Careers
This category comes from cmvideo75. Pick a career of a fighter that showed the largest difference between their peak and floor. So a career that fluctuates between an extremely high peak and extremely low floor would be perfect for this category. Use the write up, any videos, charts etc. to present your case.
A. @Tito Orcheese
Conor McGregor
We all know about the financial success that Conor McGregor has achieved in his life, but he would've never known such wealth if not for his ability to win a fight in a cage. Ya, maybe the brash personality had a hand in that as well, but that kind of grating confidence does exactly jack shit for you if you can't back it up on fight night. Conor was very much able to do that without fail; for a time, at least.
After winning the featherweight and lightweight belts (imagine that) fighting in Cage Warriors, McGregor finally got the call up to the UFC. Fans and fighters alike soon found out that this guy was a nightmare on the feet with a powerful left hand, speed, timing, and accuracy. He rattled off six wins that included victories over the likes of Max Holloway, Dustin Poirier, and Chad Mendes. He finally faced a little adversity against Mendes when he was taken down and ate some heavy elbows. Mendes said in an interview that Conor was talking shit the entire time, saying things like, "Is that all you got?" Mendes became another knockout on McGregor's record the next round.
The win versus Mendes secured Conor's shot at the featherweight champ, Jose Aldo. Aldo, who had already defended the belt seven times in the UFC, was, and still is, considered by many to be the greatest featherweight of all time. Let's see how that went.
A brutal, 13-second knockout versus the GOAT? Ok, then.
Conor went on to fight at welterweight against Nate Diaz for a couple of fights when his bid to become the first double champ in UFC history was put on hold due to Rafael dos Anjos getting injured. He was choked out in an upset during the first bout, but then come out victorious in a hard-fought rematch. Any shine lost was regained, setting the stage for his shot at double-champ status against Eddie Alvarez.
Now, a large percentage of people thought Alvarez was going to be able to eat anything McGregor could throw at him and just bully him around the cage. Let's roll the tape.
Total domination. Eddie got picked apart like a rotisserie chicken in there. McGregor showed he was just on a completely different level that only a few in the fight game ever reach.
Now, fast-forward through all the Mayweather stuff and let's get back to MMA. That brings us to Khabib -vs- McGregor. Many could tell it was going to be a bad time in the cage for Conor as soon as we saw him drunkenly attempt to get through a press conference for the fight. You could tell he was not the same guy mentally we had seen in the build-up to Aldo or Alvarez. But what about his skills in the cage? Had they taken a hit as well? I think I have some video footage somewhere.... Ah, here it is!
The stand-up sniper getting sent to the canvas by a wrestler is not a good sign. Maybe he'll be able to turn it around....
Ok, ok.... Let's just calm down and think about this. He's been away from the cage for two years doing his boxing and whiskey thing. He's going to regroup and be back better than ever.
Conor ended up getting booked to fight Donald "Cowboy" Cerrone a little over a year later. Only problem was that "Cowboy" stayed home while Donald showed up to cash a check. Kind of hard to tell if a fighter is truly back to form after a fight like that. Let's move on to the his second fight with Poirier to get some real data.
This category comes from cmvideo75. Pick a career of a fighter that showed the largest difference between their peak and floor. So a career that fluctuates between an extremely high peak and extremely low floor would be perfect for this category. Use the write up, any videos, charts etc. to present your case.
A. @Tito Orcheese
Conor McGregor
We all know about the financial success that Conor McGregor has achieved in his life, but he would've never known such wealth if not for his ability to win a fight in a cage. Ya, maybe the brash personality had a hand in that as well, but that kind of grating confidence does exactly jack shit for you if you can't back it up on fight night. Conor was very much able to do that without fail; for a time, at least.
After winning the featherweight and lightweight belts (imagine that) fighting in Cage Warriors, McGregor finally got the call up to the UFC. Fans and fighters alike soon found out that this guy was a nightmare on the feet with a powerful left hand, speed, timing, and accuracy. He rattled off six wins that included victories over the likes of Max Holloway, Dustin Poirier, and Chad Mendes. He finally faced a little adversity against Mendes when he was taken down and ate some heavy elbows. Mendes said in an interview that Conor was talking shit the entire time, saying things like, "Is that all you got?" Mendes became another knockout on McGregor's record the next round.
The win versus Mendes secured Conor's shot at the featherweight champ, Jose Aldo. Aldo, who had already defended the belt seven times in the UFC, was, and still is, considered by many to be the greatest featherweight of all time. Let's see how that went.
A brutal, 13-second knockout versus the GOAT? Ok, then.
Conor went on to fight at welterweight against Nate Diaz for a couple of fights when his bid to become the first double champ in UFC history was put on hold due to Rafael dos Anjos getting injured. He was choked out in an upset during the first bout, but then come out victorious in a hard-fought rematch. Any shine lost was regained, setting the stage for his shot at double-champ status against Eddie Alvarez.
Now, a large percentage of people thought Alvarez was going to be able to eat anything McGregor could throw at him and just bully him around the cage. Let's roll the tape.
Total domination. Eddie got picked apart like a rotisserie chicken in there. McGregor showed he was just on a completely different level that only a few in the fight game ever reach.
Now, fast-forward through all the Mayweather stuff and let's get back to MMA. That brings us to Khabib -vs- McGregor. Many could tell it was going to be a bad time in the cage for Conor as soon as we saw him drunkenly attempt to get through a press conference for the fight. You could tell he was not the same guy mentally we had seen in the build-up to Aldo or Alvarez. But what about his skills in the cage? Had they taken a hit as well? I think I have some video footage somewhere.... Ah, here it is!
The stand-up sniper getting sent to the canvas by a wrestler is not a good sign. Maybe he'll be able to turn it around....
Conor ended up getting booked to fight Donald "Cowboy" Cerrone a little over a year later. Only problem was that "Cowboy" stayed home while Donald showed up to cash a check. Kind of hard to tell if a fighter is truly back to form after a fight like that. Let's move on to the his second fight with Poirier to get some real data.
thedarkwingduck2k11
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He got all beat to shit. Just...roll the third Poirier fight! It can't possibly be worse than the second!
OH FUCK!!! He snapped it! What could be next for this guy? There is absolutely no way that he takes five years off, doing god knows what, only to make a big comeback, immediately injure his knee, and eat punches for 60 seconds! No. Fucking. Way!
RIP Conor McGregor. His tombstone reads: "The top looked a hell of a lot different than the bottom."
cmvideo75: LOL I enjoyed the write ups with these clips and the timeline. The clip of Khabib's corner for the knock down was pretty nice too. Hadn't seen that one before. Conor is a good entry. He definitely had a GOAT-ish peak followed by a disastrous fall off. My only beef is the level of competition was so high throughout. It's not like he lost to any cans along the way. Plus a lot of it is his own fault because of a variety of distractions plus injuries... but that also helps the argument here too. Not a bad entry but there are probably more extreme examples. 7/10
Webble: It's well documented I cant stand this rapist and maybe that taints my view on him a little but I never really respected his achievements, mainly due to the fact that he never really defended his belts, his peak was as much from fame as from fighting. He has hit a low, probably more so in UK and Ireland where he is mostly loathed for his behaviour 8/10
Brick: Not bad. Definitely hit the highest of highs for a while there, and losing 4 of your final 5 (and that one win was, as you state, a phone-in by Cowboy). I was thinking, though, how “low” is his “low”? He’s still a bazillionaire, and he’s transitioning to acting. But I read the description closely and it doesn’t seem to be looking for “life” highs and lows, rather specifically to the fighting career. And he’s mostly a bazillionaire due to things like that absolute joke of Mayweather “fight” anyway, which pretty much no one respects him for, career-wise. So, definitely a massive career peak like we hadn’t seen before, falling down to kind of a laughing stock of the sport (“oh, look, McGregor is hurt again, what a shock.”). This works. 8/10.
GoodCat: Connor was one of the ones that immediately came to mind when I saw this category. And I think you did it justice with the videos and write ups. I never liked the guy, but sometimes you have to admit when someone is just good at what they do. Same with Jon Jones. But at his peak, Connor was on the trajectory to possibly becoming one of the greatest of all time. There were multiple things that led to his falling off a cliff, but the point is that it happened. Great pick for this round 9/10
Total: 32
thedarkwingduck2k11
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B. @Eranys
Renan Barão
Renan Barão represents the most catastrophic contrast between a fighter's peak and floor in UFC history. In less than five years, he went from an unbeatable 32 fight streak and the #1 pound for pound fighter on Earth to an unranked preliminary fighter getting knocked out by journeymen.
The Peak: vs. Eddie Wineland (UFC 165 – Sept 2013)
At his apex, Barão was a devastating and creative finish artist. In his interim title defense against Eddie Wineland, Barão showcased absolute mastery. In Round 2, he delivered a highlight reel spinning back kick directly to Wineland’s chin before landing rapid ground and pound to seal the finish. He wasn't just winning; he was dominating elite contenders with technical authority, prompting Dana White to crown him the best P4P fighter in the world.
Highlights
Full fight, only if you are so inclined.
The Floor: vs. Luke Sanders (UFC on ESPN 1 – Feb 2019)
Fast forward six years to the absolute bottom of his decline. Pushed to the early prelims against unranked opponent Luke Sanders, Barão missed weight by 2.8 lbs, a sure sign of his broken preparation. After a competitive opening round, Barão gassed completely 60 seconds into Round 2, absorbing a violent left-right combination from Sanders that face planted him onto the canvas. Watching a former undisputed world champion rendered unconscious on an unranked preliminary card perfectly captures the tragic, rock bottom floor of his career.
The full fight, or even highlights, seem completely unavailable, sadly. But here is the KO.
Fancy graphic: View attachment 2028
cmvideo75: Excellent entry here. I wasn't thinking of Barao but you are totally correct... 32 in a row, title, impressive highlight KOs.... followed by a total fall off the cliff. Tough to think of a faster fall off actually. And good way to hammer it home with the Luke Sanders clip. That's what I was talking about with the Conor entry... Conor doesn't really have any Luke Sanders on his resume lol. 9/10
Webble: yes I agree with this one, there were a couple of guys from that camp that experienced similar fates if I recall correctly although none so high profile as Renan 8/10
Brick: Another good submission. When I saw this, what first popped into my head was maybe Liddell, due to his streak of KO/TKO finishes (maybe 10 or so?) against massively talented opponents, followed by a bunch of humiliating losses, culminating in his hated rival Tito putting him into retirement. But this record blows that away; 32 straight is amazing, especially since the final 10 or so were either WEC or UFC, so it’s the real deal compared to fighting nobodies twice per week in Brazil, lol. But Luke Sanders, yikes; not even sure how that guy still had a UFC contract at the time, let alone fighting Renan. That loss surrounded by a ton of other no-name losses is indeed quite the fall. I think McGregor had the higher high but Renan had the lower low, so I’m calling this one a draw. 8/10.
GoodCat: Another great pick for this category, Barao wasn't the first one I thought of, but that doesn't mean this pick is any less good than the other one. I like how you formatted your videos and write ups as well, but the one thing the other pick had over yours was they included more examples of the fall off. 8.5/10
Total: 33.5
Eranys takes another close round and is now leading 96.5-87, heading into the "championship" rounds. Does Tito have enough left in the tank for a comeback or will this be the greatest underdog story in Junkie idol history. Stay tune.
Renan Barão
Renan Barão represents the most catastrophic contrast between a fighter's peak and floor in UFC history. In less than five years, he went from an unbeatable 32 fight streak and the #1 pound for pound fighter on Earth to an unranked preliminary fighter getting knocked out by journeymen.
The Peak: vs. Eddie Wineland (UFC 165 – Sept 2013)
At his apex, Barão was a devastating and creative finish artist. In his interim title defense against Eddie Wineland, Barão showcased absolute mastery. In Round 2, he delivered a highlight reel spinning back kick directly to Wineland’s chin before landing rapid ground and pound to seal the finish. He wasn't just winning; he was dominating elite contenders with technical authority, prompting Dana White to crown him the best P4P fighter in the world.
The Floor: vs. Luke Sanders (UFC on ESPN 1 – Feb 2019)
Fast forward six years to the absolute bottom of his decline. Pushed to the early prelims against unranked opponent Luke Sanders, Barão missed weight by 2.8 lbs, a sure sign of his broken preparation. After a competitive opening round, Barão gassed completely 60 seconds into Round 2, absorbing a violent left-right combination from Sanders that face planted him onto the canvas. Watching a former undisputed world champion rendered unconscious on an unranked preliminary card perfectly captures the tragic, rock bottom floor of his career.
Fancy graphic: View attachment 2028
cmvideo75: Excellent entry here. I wasn't thinking of Barao but you are totally correct... 32 in a row, title, impressive highlight KOs.... followed by a total fall off the cliff. Tough to think of a faster fall off actually. And good way to hammer it home with the Luke Sanders clip. That's what I was talking about with the Conor entry... Conor doesn't really have any Luke Sanders on his resume lol. 9/10
Webble: yes I agree with this one, there were a couple of guys from that camp that experienced similar fates if I recall correctly although none so high profile as Renan 8/10
Brick: Another good submission. When I saw this, what first popped into my head was maybe Liddell, due to his streak of KO/TKO finishes (maybe 10 or so?) against massively talented opponents, followed by a bunch of humiliating losses, culminating in his hated rival Tito putting him into retirement. But this record blows that away; 32 straight is amazing, especially since the final 10 or so were either WEC or UFC, so it’s the real deal compared to fighting nobodies twice per week in Brazil, lol. But Luke Sanders, yikes; not even sure how that guy still had a UFC contract at the time, let alone fighting Renan. That loss surrounded by a ton of other no-name losses is indeed quite the fall. I think McGregor had the higher high but Renan had the lower low, so I’m calling this one a draw. 8/10.
GoodCat: Another great pick for this category, Barao wasn't the first one I thought of, but that doesn't mean this pick is any less good than the other one. I like how you formatted your videos and write ups as well, but the one thing the other pick had over yours was they included more examples of the fall off. 8.5/10
Total: 33.5
Eranys takes another close round and is now leading 96.5-87, heading into the "championship" rounds. Does Tito have enough left in the tank for a comeback or will this be the greatest underdog story in Junkie idol history. Stay tune.
HKOG
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Round 4 could change things
With respect to Tito, I do feel that Renan's fall was significantly worse. Dustin Poirier is not a Luke Sanders.
a-mart
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Unrelated to this game and whatever you were supposed to consider:
In the professional side of it, yeah, Barao's downfall is worse than anyone else's
If you include Conor becoming what he is now (doesn't mean he's changed but he wasn't this scumbag until kinda recently) then it's worse
ABB
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oh...please keep this debate going. we have to be able to figure out who's right and thus far the data is extremely sparse.Jeez, man, you and @HKOG have more in common than I realized.
I'm aware it's a make believe movie, little guy. But:
Enjoy the peanut gallery with ABB
go on now...go on
We're just talking MMA here, not personal life. Conor never fought on the early prelims after his fall, that is pretty bad after the heights they both saw.
It was between him and BJ for me. I took Renan because of how precipitously the fall happened, and the caliber of opponent he lost to.
a-mart
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I loved that fight. Best Imanari Roll EVER