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British Police Arrest Men Driving Toward U.S. Bomber Base In The U.K. With Suspected Explosives​

Details continue to come in, but police in the United Kingdom have declared a “major incident” and ordered evacuations near RAF Fairford after the arrest of “several men on suspicion of offenses under the explosives act,” the Gloucestershire Constabulary stated.
 
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Mystery Shoulder-Fired Surface-To-Air Missile Appears In Russian Service​

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An unusual shoulder-fired air defense missile seen in Russian use may be of Chinese or Iranian origin, raising questions about the movement of foreign weapons through the increasingly interconnected military supply networks linking Moscow, Beijing, and Tehran.
 

British Police Arrest Men Driving Toward U.S. Bomber Base In The U.K. With Suspected Explosives​

No explosives, they let them go.

 
I would surmise that they released them to heavily monitor them and hope they make a mistake.

The article admitted as much, but I would assume that whoever put them up to this, if it actually is nefarious and not a stupid young man game they tried to play, that they will not be involved in further "plots" for some time.

But Marco Rubio is convinced that this is the work of "foreign actors" without an iota of proof, so we will continue to hear about this "plot" that really has no proof of being an actual plot since there are zero other suspects and no actual explosives to blow up our airbase.

It makes a good headline though if you neglect all the actual facts. Who cares about facts these days?? Certainly not the current administration.
 
The article admitted as much, but I would assume that whoever put them up to this, if it actually is nefarious and not a stupid young man game they tried to play, that they will not be involved in further "plots" for some time.
This has the scent of Iran. They are well known for hiring incompetents for cheap. They employ street gangs, mafias, and average idiots to do their foreign bidding.
 
This has the scent of Iran. They are well known for hiring incompetents for cheap. They employ street gangs, mafias, and average idiots to do their foreign bidding.
Iran hired two morons out of a halfway house in NYC to first try to assassinate a dissident Iranian journalist. It was supposed to be a 'practice run' for an attempt on either Trump or one of his family members. NYPD got them quickly.

They were paid like $5K each lol.
 
The article admitted as much, but I would assume that whoever put them up to this, if it actually is nefarious and not a stupid young man game they tried to play, that they will not be involved in further "plots" for some time.

But Marco Rubio is convinced that this is the work of "foreign actors" without an iota of proof, so we will continue to hear about this "plot" that really has no proof of being an actual plot since there are zero other suspects and no actual explosives to blow up our airbase.

It makes a good headline though if you neglect all the actual facts. Who cares about facts these days?? Certainly not the current administration.
You don't have the actual facts. You have what they've released.

This is what gets me: no one without codeword security clearance would know the first thing about what intelligence they do or do not have, and the single goddamn stupidest thing they could do is present all they have publicly. That's is exactly how you burn whatever intelligence asset you have in play, and find yourself in the dark.

This is hard for the average civvie to accept, but you have absolutely NO right to any information or proof when it comes to these things. None whatsoever. Because civilians and reporters are nothing but intelligence liabilities, and you being informed potentially compromises everything in play for precisely no benefit whatsoever.

The best you can do in these situations is the "walks like a duck" and "Occams Razor" principles. And this operation walks like an Iranian duck that is probing systems and reactions. This is exactly how they smoke test systems like this. And Occams Razor tells us that the most likely explanation is probably correct; and it is far more likely that Iran is probing than five Ahmeds decided to play some "stupid game." So why release them? To see who they contact. To see what they do.

Like we established, this is how Iran does these things, that means theres someone actually involved and important around, and they want to find that person. The best way to do that is through these dipshits.
 
You don't have the actual facts. You have what they've released.

This is what gets me: no one without codeword security clearance would know the first thing about what intelligence they do or do not have, and the single goddamn stupidest thing they could do is present all they have publicly. That's is exactly how you burn whatever intelligence asset you have in play, and find yourself in the dark.

This is hard for the average civvie to accept, but you have absolutely NO right to any information or proof when it comes to these things. None whatsoever. Because civilians and reporters are nothing but intelligence liabilities, and you being informed potentially compromises everything in play for precisely no benefit whatsoever.

The best you can do in these situations is the "walks like a duck" and "Occams Razor" principles. And this operation walks like an Iranian duck that is probing systems and reactions. This is exactly how they smoke test systems like this. And Occams Razor tells us that the most likely explanation is probably correct; and it is far more likely that Iran is probing than five Ahmeds decided to play some "stupid game." So why release them? To see who they contact. To see what they do.

Like we established, this is how Iran does these things, that means theres someone actually involved and important around, and they want to find that person. The best way to do that is through these dipshits.

I agree, and.... this is a large part of why I no longer really follow the news anymore, especially international news.
 
You don't have the actual facts. You have what they've released.

Neither do you or anyone else that is a "civvie", but a large pile of MAGA morons have already convicted 5 adolescent boys as terrorists in their minds with little to no actual proof that they were in the middle of a terrorist plot because it makes good headlines to rouse the anti-immigrant base.

Did you see the guy who ran for Congress in Michigan? Black, Christian guy with a Muslim name. Endorsed by Trump and Mike Johnson. Lost to a guy who dropped out of the race, only raised $2,500 and could not even report it because he could not make the campaign finance reporting website load properly. Why did he lose? He has a Muslim name and Maga turned on him.

The point of that is that sometimes, when it "quacks like a duck", some fucking moron doesn't even see a bird in the sky, calls it a duck anyway, and then innocent people get hurt.

 
Neither do you or anyone else that is a "civvie", but a large pile of MAGA morons have already convicted 5 adolescent boys as terrorists in their minds with little to no actual proof that they were in the middle of a terrorist plot because it makes good headlines to rouse the anti-immigrant base.
Yeah, but the difference between us is that I KNOW I don't know anything except what they want me told, so I draw absolutely zero definitive conclusions about it, unlike what you did above.
Did you see the guy who ran for Congress in Michigan? Black, Christian guy with a Muslim name. Endorsed by Trump and Mike Johnson. Lost to a guy who dropped out of the race, only raised $2,500 and could not even report it because he could not make the campaign finance reporting website load properly. Why did he lose? He has a Muslim name and Maga turned on him.

The point of that is that sometimes, when it "quacks like a duck", some fucking moron doesn't even see a bird in the sky, calls it a duck anyway, and then innocent people get hurt.

Those are two absolutely and completely unrelated events, from different countries, and I have no idea why you're trying to conflate them.

I mean, if we're going to just solely point at complete dumbasses and their dangerous actions, I don't think either side has a monopoly on those.

For example have you seen the hoard of people from your side who think that a woman should go free after brutally murdering her three kids with exercise bands because her hormones made her sad?

Or the other hoard that is up in arms and threatening some young men, simply because a young Black man drowned and they just can't accept that? Or how about more of the leftist crowd that was up in arms all over the "modern day lynchings" by white people? Except one turned out to be three Black men and to probably.be drug related, and the others were suicides.

You want to point the finger at MAGA dumbasses, fine, whatever, weird flex in the WAR thread, but your leftist side of the house certainly has plenty for them to point right back at, so maybe jump off that high horse you're riding.
 
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